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Kevin Landry
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We have a rather large sold graphic to go on the hood of a mustang. The mustang's hood is somewhat of a bubble. The graphic is about 32 inches wide by 36 inches long. Any ideas on how to get this monster on would be much apprecieated.

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Kevin Landry
KnL Signs
Halifax NS
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Stevo Chartrand
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Kevin.
I would hinge the vinyl from top or bottom and slice each letter individually and stick them one at a time dry.

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Stevo Chartrand
Commercial Signs
Edmonton, AB
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jimmy chatham
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rapid tac

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Jimmy Chatham
Chatham Signs
164 Poplar Rd.
Commerce, Ga 30529
706-335-2348
Fax 706-335-3378
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Pierre St.Marie
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Actually, severe compound curve installations require a clear premask (it stretches a bit) and is also the one case where dry is rather important. (Correct me if you disagree, Roger, and explain)
Is this a single web decal, or component parts involving copy and logo? One of my training classes deals with severe compound curves and the "memory", or the ability for the "memory" to relax and allow this kind of installation. I'm guessing this might not be a severe situation unless you're crossing depressions in the hood that follow the compound curve. 5 Alive needs input!

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St.Marie Graphics
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Kalispell, Montana
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roger bailey
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Do it the easy (with best quality)way, do it with Rapid Tac !!

Theres no sence in making a "big deal" out of it !

Roger

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
Waikoloa, Hawaii



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Jim Upchurch
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Either way you do it, a roller, rather than a squeege, will help. I like the "J" rollers
with long handles.

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Artworks
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Pierre St.Marie
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Roger, I don't know exactly what kind of applique it is, but it could very easily be a "very big deal" if he blows it and it's a printed expensive one. Working compound curved surfaces depends a lot on "pre-adhesion" of the applique. He hasn't provided enough info on the applique or the surface for us to really help him.

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St.Marie Graphics
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Kalispell, Montana
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Mark Barnhill
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With the info given, I would have to do this one dry. If there is a better way to do it wet, I would sure like to know how. The only way I have ever done compound curves is dry. Maybe I need a lesson.... :-)

mark

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Mark Barnhill
Vinyl Creations
Antioch TN.
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roger bailey
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Mark, I'm willing to spend some money if your willing to spend a (very) little time,
e-mail your address to Connie, mail@rapidtac.com

She will get you samples, then you just have to try it, heck try it all over the place,
try it on Coroplast, banner(textured)material,glass,plexi,lexan,painted mdo,vehicles,boats,bldgs. whatever.

Roger

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
Waikoloa, Hawaii



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Mark Barnhill
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Thanks Roger, I already received the samples... I might, just might.. try it on my next compound surface... I'm still a little doubtful though... ;-)

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Mark Barnhill
Vinyl Creations
Antioch TN.
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roger bailey
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Mark, ya won't feel the confidence till ya do !!

Roger

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
Waikoloa, Hawaii



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Pierre St.Marie
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Yo, Roger! Have you guys used RapidTac on severe compound curves?

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St.Marie Graphics
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Kalispell, Montana
stmariegraphics@centurytel.net http://www.stmariegraphics.com
800 735-8026
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Derek Nicholas
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Now this is getting interesting........
Keep it coming guys! LOL

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Derek Nicholas
Derek's Custom Signs
4335 S. Black Horse Pike
Williamstown, NJ 08094

email: derek_n1@yahoo.com

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Jerry Mathel
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My son and I did just such an application on the deck of a race boat. We used Rapid-Tac and a stretchable clear application tape. We started by squeeging down the center strip, then CAREFULLY began working the decal down onto the surface in both directions toward the outside edges, a little bit at a time. Seemed to work fine with no problems.

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Jerry Mathel
Jerry Mathel Signs
Grants Pass, Oregon
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Rosemary
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"LOL"? What's so funny?

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Mark Fair Signs
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i would do it dry if it were individual letters.vinyl)
if this is a digitally printed piece i would consider using rapid tac.

if individual lettering, i would suggest cutting with scissors between each letter. apply one letter at a time.

rapid tac is a great product and i use it every once in a while for those hard to apply graphics.

i personally have had better luck with dry application on most jobs.

oh well, just my opinion...you know what they say about opinions.LOL

good luck,


mark

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Mark Fair Signs
Montgomery, Alabama
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roger bailey
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I think I dated a girl with "compound curves" once.

Is that what you mean Pierre ??

Roger

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
Waikoloa, Hawaii



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Wet is fine over a "bubble" type curve (dry is too if you're comfortable with it)
Last year I did 50 pt cruisers for local brewery http://members.aol.com/slamgrafyx/cruiser.jpg
did the hoods dry with a center hinge ... did one trunk dry ... ripped it off and re-did wet (maybe paper masking added to the pain)
sure, the trunks look flat but they are kind of a "bubble"
I don't like wet over ridges and such but over a flat "bubble" wet is fine
whatever you feel comfortable with ... if your in doubt try it wet

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http://www.slamgraphics.com
Rochester, N.Y.
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That's exACTly what I meant, Roger. But you didn't use RapidRemover on her, did you?

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St.Marie Graphics
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Kalispell, Montana
stmariegraphics@centurytel.net http://www.stmariegraphics.com
800 735-8026
We're chiseling every day of the week! :^)



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Kevin Landry
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Thanks for the Info guys. The graphic is going on the hood of a mustang.

Instead of paying out a bunch of money for some clear application tape, we will try applying the top part of the graphic with plain premask and then trying the bottom of the graphic without application tape using rapid tak. This should work.


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Kevin Landry
KnL Signs
Halifax NS
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roger bailey
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No Pierre, but my new women wants to !!

Roger

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Roger Bailey
Rapid Tac Incorporated
Waikoloa, Hawaii



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Roger, I think rapid PREP would suit those needs better than rapid remover... Whaddya think? <evil grin>

talk about off topic.... This thread is REALLY drifting.. ;-)

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Mark Barnhill
Vinyl Creations
Antioch TN.
mark@vinylcreations.net

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