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J & N Signs
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Mario Carmona requested decals for cars. A link is provided to a gif for the logo. I haven't used the link and won't. A quick search involved Carmona in XXX sites if it's the same Carmona. I have deleted the email. Legit or not. No address or phone number. Just though I would pass is on.

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Thanks Fergie;Yet ANOTHER reason"NOT" to open each and every e-mail received.And the
entire reason I personally don,t SELL signs via web pages through the internet!Although I have and will continue to use it as an "electronic business card" The Customer will still have to call me on the telephone
for discussions about sign work to be done!
IF this process is to expensive for them.Then they couldn't afford my sign work either!

Hope this helps

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King Sign Design in
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Hey Mario..I got the same e-mail and did look at the GIF. No harm in looking and ya can't get a virus from a GIF, that I know of.

I do do work for folks over the internet but only if they identify themselves as being in SOuthewestern Ontario and I will be doing the installation work and will be standing in front of them with my invoice in one hand, and the other extended with the palm up to recieve their money on the spot.

I used to do long distance stuff at first but got burned fer $150 by a guy in Boston so I quiot doing that kinda "mailorder" stuff.

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"stickin' sticky stuff to valuable vessels and vehicles!"
in Granton, Ontario, Canada
1-519-225-2634
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I received the same message, checked out the gif file, it looks pretty legit. I'll be pricing the vinyl, but will only do it prepaid. that's what I require to do internet business. Otherwise no deal.

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Personally I think that they want you to reply to get hits on their page and verify that your email address is correct. I will forward some bits and pieces on this guy...


Here is one piece that I found:
FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION
STEPHEN L. COHEN
COLLOT GUERARD
600 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20580
202-326-3222; 326-3338 phone
202-326-3395 fax

FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION

BARBARA CHUN CA Bar # 186907
Local Counsel
10877 Wilshire Blvd. #700
Los Angeles, California 90024
310-824-4343 phone
310-824-4380 fax

ATTORNEYS FOR PLAINTIFF

UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT FOR THE
CENTRAL DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA

FEDERAL TRADE COMMISSION, Plaintiff,

v.

XPICS PUBLISHING, INC., a corporation, also d/b/a Xpics, xpics.com, sex museum.com, sexroulette.com, assawards.com, livesexstream.com, xxxsexphotos.com, and

MARIO G. CARMONA, individually, also d/b/a Xpics, xpics.com, sex museum.com, sexroulette.com, assawards.com, livesexstream.com, xxxsexphotos.com, and as an officer of the corporation, and

BRIAN M. SHUSTER, individually, also d/b/a Xpics, xpics.com, sex museum.com, sexroulette.com, assawards.com, livesexstream.com, xxxsexphotos.com, and as an officer of the corporation, Defendants.

Civil Action No.

COMPLAINT FOR INJUNCTIVE AND OTHER RELIEF REDRESS

Plaintiff, the Federal Trade Commission ("FTC" or "the Commission"), for its complaint alleges as follows:

1. The FTC brings this action under Section 13(b) of the Federal Trade Commission Act ("FTC Act"), 15 U.S.C. § 53(b), and the Truth in Lending Act ("TILA"), 15 U.S.C. § 1601 et seq., to secure preliminary and permanent injunctive relief, rescission of contracts, restitution, disgorgement, and other equitable relief for defendants' unfair or deceptive acts and practices in violation of Section 5(a) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 45(a), and Section 226.12(e) of Regulation Z, 12 C.F.R. § 226.12(e), which implements the TILA.

JURISDICTION AND VENUE

2. This Court has jurisdiction over this matter pursuant to 28 U.S.C. §§ 1331, 1337(a), and 1345, and 15 U.S.C. §§ 45(a), 53(b), and 1607(c).

3. Venue in the United States District Court for the Central District of California is proper under 28 U.S.C. §§ 1391(b) and (c), and 15 U.S.C. §§ 53(b).

PLAINTIFF

4. Plaintiff, the Federal Trade Commission, is an independent agency of the United States Government created by statute. 15 U.S.C. §§ 41 et seq. The Commission is charged, inter alia, with enforcement of Section 5(a) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 45(a), which prohibits unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce. The Commission also enforces the TILA and its implementing Regulation Z. A violation of the TILA is a violation of the FTC Act. 15 U.S.C. § 1607(c). The Commission is authorized to initiate federal district court proceedings, by its own attorneys, to enjoin violations of the FTC Act and the TILA, and to secure such equitable relief as may be appropriate in each case. 15 U.S.C.§§ 53(b), 56(a)(2), and 1607(c).

DEFENDANTS

5. Defendant Xpics Publishing, Inc. ("Xpics") is a California corporation. Xpics was incorporated in 1996, and transacts business in the Central District of California. Xpics' address is 312 Doria Court, Suite 102, Zephyr Cove, Nevada 89448. Xpics also lists Post Office Box 41077, Los Angeles, California 90007 as an address. Xpics' address on file with the Better Business Bureau is 425 E. Colorado Blvd., Suite 710, Glendale, California 91205.

6. Defendant Mario Carmona ("Carmona") is an owner, director, president, and chief financial officer of Xpics. At all times material to this complaint, acting alone or in concert with others, he has formulated, directed, controlled, or participated in the acts and practices set forth in this complaint. He resides and has transacted business within the Central District of California.

7. Defendant Brian Shuster ("Shuster") is an owner, director, and chief executive officer of Xpics. At all times material to this complaint, acting alone or in concert with others, he has formulated, directed, controlled, or participated in the acts and practices set forth in this complaint. He resides and has transacted business within the Central District of California.

8. Collectively or individually, defendants Xpics Publishing, Carmona, and Shuster do business as Xpics; and on the Internet as "www.xpics.com"; "www.sexmuseum.com"; "www.assawards.com"; "www.livesexstream.com"; "www.sexroulette.com"; and on other sites on the Internet.

COMMERCE

9. At all times relevant to this complaint, defendants have maintained a substantial course of trade, advertising, offering, offering for sale, and selling adult entertainment goods and services via the Internet in or affecting commerce, as "commerce" is defined in Section 4 of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 44.

DEFINITIONS

10. "World Wide Web" or "web" means a system used on the Internet for cross-referencing and retrieving information. A "web site" is a set of electronic documents, usually a home page and subordinate pages, readily viewable on a computer by anyone with access to the Web, standard software, and knowledge of the web site's location or address.

11. "Internet" means a worldwide system of linked computer networks that use a common protocol (TCP/IP) to deliver and receive information. The "Internet" includes, but is not limited to, the following forms of electronic communication: electronic mail, the World Wide Web, newsgroups, Internet Relay Chat, and file transfer protocols.

12. A "banner advertisement" or "ad banner" is an advertisement on a web site that links to the advertiser's web site.

13. "Browser" means a program that allows users to read hypertext documents on the World Wide Web, and navigate between the documents. Examples of browsers are Netscape Navigator, AOL, and Microsoft Internet Explorer.

DEFENDANTS' BUSINESS PRACTICES

14. Since approximately March 1996, defendants have operated and promoted one or more World Wide Web sites offering adult entertainment goods and services, including the web sites located at "www.xpics.com," "www.sexmuseum.com," "www.sexroulette.com," "www.livesexstream.com," and "www.assawards.com" that promise consumers that they can view adult images for "free" at these Internet sites.

15. At one or more of the defendants' Internet sites, on one or more of defendants' banner advertisements, and through unsolicited commercial e-mail, defendants state that they offer adult images for viewing for "FREE," "100% Free," or "FREE, FREE, FREE."

16. When consumers arrive at any of defendants' Internet sites, defendants instruct consumers to provide a credit or debit card number and expiration date to verify they are of legal age to view adult images. Defendants do not disclose, however, that they will charge a monthly fee to the consumer's credit or debit card. Consequently, in numerous instances, as a result of consumers providing defendants with their credit or debit card information, defendants charge consumers a monthly fee for viewing adult images on defendants' Internet sites that defendants have advertised as free, and that consumers believe are free.

17. In numerous other instances, defendants state that consumers can obtain access to defendants' Internet sites for a free trial period, and avoid any charges by canceling a given number of days before the end of the free trial period. In fact, in numerous instances, defendants bill such consumers for a monthly access fee even though the consumers have submitted a cancellation request within the specified time period.

18. In numerous instances, defendants prevent consumers from accessing defendants' cancellation page by overriding the controls on the consumers' browser, or by redirecting consumers to irrelevant pages. In other instances, defendants prevent consumers who attempt to exit from defendants' Internet sites from immediately doing so.

19. In numerous instances, consumers who, in a timely manner, try to cancel their access to defendants' Internet sites are unable to do so. In some instances, consumers who attempt to cancel via defendants' Internet sites receive an "error" or "access denied" message. In other instances, consumers who attempt to cancel by telephone are unable to leave a message because defendants' voice-mail box is full and cannot receive additional messages, or because defendants do not respond to consumers' telephone calls. In other instances, defendants never respond to, or act on, consumers' requests to cancel via e-mail.

20. In numerous instances, defendants refuse to allow consumers to cancel without waiting a certain number of days, or waiting until consumers have had to view additional web sites owned or operated by defendants.

21. In numerous instances, after consumers have submitted a cancellation request, defendants send a reply message stating that the request has been "received" or that a consumer's access has been "canceled." Nevertheless, these consumers often receive additional charges on their credit and debit card statements from defendants. In other instances, consumers request cancellation, only to be charged by defendants for "upgraded" access privileges instead.

22. In numerous instances, consumers who are unsuccessful in canceling contact defendants by e-mail to ask why they were not canceled. Defendants send many of those consumers a reply e-mail from "@xpics.com," repeating instructions that the consumer has already followed. In numerous other instances, defendants send no reply at all.

23. In numerous instances, defendants do not credit consumers' accounts within seven (7) business days even though defendants have notified such consumers that their cancellation request has been received, or that their account has been canceled.

24. In numerous instances, defendants have failed to provide a current contact number for Xpics on consumers' credit or debit card statements.

25. In numerous instances, defendants charge consumers a monthly access fee even though those consumers never agreed to purchase defendants' goods or services.

26. In numerous instances, consumers are forced to contact their credit or debit card issuer to challenge defendants' charges that appear on the consumers' credit or debit card statements. On numerous occasions, card issuers have informed consumers that, because the Xpics' charge is "revolving" and will appear each month, the card issuers cannot stop the charges from appearing each succeeding month.

27. In numerous instances, defendants only credit consumers after a law enforcement agency or consumer protection organization has interceded on the consumers' behalf.

VIOLATIONS OF SECTION 5 OF THE FTC ACT

28. Section 5(a) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 45(a), provides that unfair or deceptive acts or practices in or affecting commerce are unlawful. Misrepresentations and omissions of material facts made to induce a reasonable consumer to purchase products or services, including the purchase of information, are deceptive acts or practices that are prohibited by Section 5(a) of the Act.

COUNT I

29. In numerous instances, in the course of advertising, offering, offering for sale, or selling adult entertainment goods and services, defendants represent to consumers, directly or by implication, that consumers may access such goods and services for "free."

30. In truth and in fact, in numerous instances, defendants charge monthly fees to consumers for access to defendants' adult entertainment goods and services, and, therefore, consumers may not access such goods and services for free.

31. Therefore, defendants' representations, as set forth in paragraph 29, above, are false and deceptive, in violation of Section 5 of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 45.

COUNT II

32. In numerous instances, in the course of advertising, offering, offering for sale, or selling adult entertainment goods and services, defendants represent to consumers, directly or by implication, that they are requesting consumers' credit card information only for age verification purposes.

33. In truth and in fact, in numerous instances, defendants are not requesting consumers' credit card information only for age verification purposes. Rather, defendants are requesting consumers' credit card information to bill for defendants' Web site services in addition to its use for age verification.

34. Therefore, defendants' representation, as set forth in paragraph 32, above, is false and deceptive, in violation of Section 5 of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 45.

COUNT III

35. In numerous instances, in the course of advertising, offering, offering for sale, or selling adult entertainment goods and services, defendants represent to consumers, directly or by implication, that consumers who cancel in a timely manner and in accordance with defendants' procedures will not be charged any fees.

36. In truth and in fact, in numerous instances, defendants charge consumers a fee even though consumers have canceled in a timely manner and in accordance with defendants' procedures.

37. Therefore defendants' representations, as set forth in paragraph 35, above, are false and deceptive, in violation of Section 5 of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 45.

COUNT IV

38. In numerous instances, in the course of advertising, offering, offering for sale, or selling adult entertainment goods and services, defendants represent, directly or by implication, to consumers who submit cancellation requests that those consumers' accounts for defendants' adult entertainment goods and services are, in fact, canceled.

39. In truth and in fact, even though defendants tell consumers their accounts for defendants' adult entertainment goods and services are canceled, in numerous instances, defendants bill those consumers' credit or debit cards for a monthly fee.

40. Therefore, defendants' representations, as set forth in paragraph 38, above, are false and deceptive, in violation of Section 5 of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 45.

COUNT V

41. In numerous instances, in the course of advertising, offering, offering for sale, or selling adult entertainment goods and services, defendants represent, directly or by implication, to consumers who submit cancellation requests that those consumers' accounts for defendants' adult entertainment goods and services are, in fact, canceled.

42. In truth and in fact, instead of canceling such consumers' accounts, defendants instead "upgrade" them for an additional, more expensive fee.

43. Therefore, defendants' representations, as set forth in Paragraph 41, above, are false and deceptive, in violation of Section 5 of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 45.

COUNT VI

44. In the course of advertising, offering, offering for sale, or selling plans by which consumers can access defendants' adult entertainment goods and services, defendants represent to consumers, directly or by implication, that the consumers may access the goods and services for free and may cancel access to defendants' goods and services without paying any fees.

45 In numerous instances, defendants have failed to disclose clearly and conspicuously to consumers:

a. that defendants will automatically bill the consumers' credit or debit card after the "free" period without further notice, and without providing information on how to cancel;

b. that, by submitting credit or debit card information, consumers have consented to defendants' billing their credit or debit card account;

c. that consumers will be required to wait for a certain number of days before they are allowed to submit a cancellation request, or will be required to view additional web sites before they can cancel;
46. In light of defendants' representations that consumers may view images on defendants' Internet sites for free and may cancel without paying any fees, as set forth in paragraph 44, above, defendants' failure to disclose clearly and conspicuously the material information set forth in Paragraph 45 is deceptive, in violation of Section 5 of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 45.

THE TRUTH IN LENDING ACT

47. Section 166 of the TILA, 15 U.S.C. § 1666e, requires creditors to promptly credit a consumer's credit card account upon acceptance of the return of goods or forgiveness of the debt for services. Section 226.12(e) of Regulation Z, which implements Section 166 of the TILA, requires creditors to credit a consumer's credit card account within seven business days from accepting the return of property or forgiving a debt for services. 12 C.F.R. § 226.12(e).

VIOLATIONS OF THE TRUTH IN LENDING ACT

COUNT VII

48. Xpics is a creditor as that term is defined in Section 103(f) of the TILA, 15 U.S.C. § 1602(f), and Section 226.2(a)(17)(ii) of Regulation Z, 12 C.F.R. § 226.2(a)(17)(ii).

49. Since at least June 1996, in numerous instances, defendant Xpics has failed to credit promptly consumers' credit card accounts within seven (7) business days from accepting the return of property or forgiving a debt for services and, therefore, has violated Section 166 of the TILA, 15 U.S.C. § 1666e, and Section 226.12(e) of Regulation Z, 12 C.F.R. § 226.12(e).

CONSUMER INJURY

50. Consumers throughout the United States and in foreign countries have suffered monetary losses as a result of the defendants' unlawful acts or practices. Absent injunctive relief by this Court, defendants are likely to continue to injure consumers and harm the public interest.

THIS COURT'S POWER TO GRANT RELIEF

51. Section 13(b) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. §§ 53(b), empowers this Court to grant injunctive and other ancillary relief, including consumer redress, disgorgement and restitution, to prevent and remedy any violations of any provision of law enforced by the FTC.

52. This Court, in the exercise of its equitable jurisdiction, may award other ancillary relief to remedy injury caused by defendants' law violations.

PRAYER FOR RELIEF

WHEREFORE, plaintiff requests that this Court, as authorized by Section 13(b) of the FTC Act, 15 U.S.C. § 53(b), Section 108(c) of the TILA, 15 U.S.C. § 1607(c), and pursuant to its own equitable powers:

1. Permanently enjoin the defendants from violating the FTC Act, the TILA, and Regulation Z as alleged herein;

2. Award such relief as the Court finds necessary to redress injury to consumers resulting from defendants' violations of the FTC Act, the TILA, and Regulation Z, including, but not limited to, rescission of contracts, the refund of monies paid, and the disgorgement of ill-gotten gains; and

3. Award plaintiff the costs of bringing this action, as well as such other and additional relief as the Court may determine to be just and proper.
Dated:

Respectfully submitted,

Stephen L. Cohen
Collot Guerard
Counsel for Plaintiff
Federal Trade Commission
600 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.
Washington, DC 20580
202-326-3222; 326-3338

LOCAL COUNSEL

Barbara Chun
Federal Trade Commission
10877 Wilshire Boulevard
Suite 700
Los Angeles, CA 90024
(310) 824-4343

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Mario G. Lafreniere aka Fergie.

http://www.onlink.net/~mgl

jnsigns@onlink.net
Chapleau, Ontario home of "The World's Largest Game Preserve"
Spring is upon us,in Shania Twain Country. Farewell snow,here comes the mosquito!

"I cut it twice and it's still too short!"

[This message has been edited by J & N Signs (edited August 05, 2001).]


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Thanks for the heads up on this guy.... Also for the email.. Maybe not such a good idea to deal with this..
another reason I like this neighborhood...

mark

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Here is another link:
Beware

http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/adult.html

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Mario G. Lafreniere aka Fergie.

http://www.onlink.net/~mgl

jnsigns@onlink.net
Chapleau, Ontario home of "The World's Largest Game Preserve"
Spring is upon us,in Shania Twain Country. Farewell snow,here comes the mosquito!

"I cut it twice and it's still too short!"

[This message has been edited by J & N Signs (edited August 05, 2001).]


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It's a mixed blessing that we have such wide access to information via the Internet. On the plus side is that you have the capability of typing in someone's name and finding out things about them. On the down side is that you have the capability of typing in someone's name and finding out things about them. If I had received an e-mail with as little information as your's, I probably would have done a check via the Internet, too. It just makes sense to be cautious. The only problem I have with your post is that other than the fact that they both have the same name, you don't provide any evidence that the guy who posted you is the same person. We know how many folks read this board and many will see your post and assume the guy is the same one the State of California is prosecuting. A quick search of online white pages shows 4 listings for Mario Carmona in California, 2 in Florida, 3 in the states of New York and Texas, 3 listings in Ontario for M. Carmona, and 3 in SK as well. It's smart to be cautious, but I think it's unfair to post the guy's name up here, planting the seed of suspicion that he's involved in X-rated web sites without a little more substantiating evidence. Especially when he's not able to defend himself. You didn't mention how he got your e-mail address, was it from your website?When you place yourself in the position of doing business over the Internet you increase the chance of getting some disreputable types, but you can get the same kind of people walking into your shop. I use two different e-mail addresses to help me determine how people find me. I have one on my business card, and a different one on my web site,a third one on this site, and a fourth one for junk e-mail. I also am cautious about "blind posts". I politely respond that I don't do business with people I don't know anything about and require complete names and addresses from them and a phone number to contact them at. If they don't respond, that's the end of it. Maybe someone else has some pointers on how to they screen their e-mail. It would make a good topic.

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Kelli Cajigas aka Janda
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You are right in saying that it could be someone else with the same name. Assumptions are made when needed information is not provided on a demand for a quotation.
And I would like to assume on the safe side.
When I require information from anybody, I add my full address along with a telephone number.

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Mario G. Lafreniere aka Fergie.

http://www.onlink.net/~mgl

jnsigns@onlink.net
Chapleau, Ontario home of "The World's Largest Game Preserve"
Spring is upon us,in Shania Twain Country. Farewell snow,here comes the mosquito!

"I cut it twice and it's still too short!"


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