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Gotta good customer that wants to remove 1-Shot from his wrecker doors. I remember seeing an article on it in one of the sign mags a year or more ago. Said to use Easy-Off? Any tips, how to?
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If Easy off is to be used, I would suggest you mask the bottom of the letters with masking paper or vinyl so when the stuff starts to work it does not eat into the base coat. A watchful eye is most important.
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Test a small area first with at least three applications. Sometimes easy off will discolor the base coats, reds are especially bad.
Wear rubber gloves.
Cover any aluminum such as running boards, wheels etc. near where you are spraying. Easy off will quickly ruin aluminum, the overspray carries quite far.
Wear rubber gloves.
A fingernail brush or similar plastic scrubbing brush works great after the easy off sets for about five minutes.
Wear rubber gloves.
Be prepared for a mess, cover everything below where you are using the easy off, especially the ground.
Wear rubber gloves.
Wash the finished surface with water to neutralize the easy off, finish off with Rapid Prep.
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In addition to the wise advice already given I can tell you that if the one-shot is really on there tough(may have had hardener added)another trick is to tape some saran wrap below the lettering. Once you have sprayed on the Easy-Off, flip the saran wrap up and cover the sprayed area with it. That holds all those nice fumes and active ingredients in and it becomes much more potent.
This tip was originally given to me by Mike McCloud.
And another useful item, in addition to the brush that George mentioned, is a Lil Chizler. ------------------ Dave Grundy AKA "applicator" on mIRC "stickin' sticky stuff to valuable vessels and vehicles!" in Granton, Ontario, Canada 1-519-225-2634 dave.grundy@quadro.net www.quadro.net/~shirley
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Dont forget a set of goggles. Dont try this trick outdoors on a boat in windy conditions if you are ANYWHERE near the boatowners brand new Cadillac! Wear rubber gloves
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Besides the good advice above, be aware that easy-off on a repainted air-dried vehicle is risky at best. Factory baked original finishes tolerate easy-off a whole lot better than repaints. Cover your rear and warn your customer about the risks. Good luck.
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It's funny that on my way this morning, I was thinking about posting something to try and get a consensus of what other people were doing to remove older One-Shot lettering and striping
Does anyone have other suggestions for removers other than Easy-Off? Thats the only item I know of but I am sure somebody here has tried something else and feels that they have had better luck with it. Something tells me that Roger has an answer to this problem or at least maybe he is working on the concept as we read this posting. I can hear the wheels a spinnin in your head Roger. Hopefully you can do it with less potential harm to the base paint.
Maybe I will give the rapid remover a try on my old truck this weekend see if it does remove striping??
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If the door is a repaint without hardner, yer in deep doodoo, trying to get it off! If it is factory paint, or a catalyzed paint, laquer thiner1/2 & 1/2 with mineral spirits, will soften it enough to rub it off with a "shop rag" (rough cloth). BE SURE TO TEST IT 1st ON AN INCONSPICUOUS AREA!!!!!!!!! It's a slow job, but it works.
When all else fails...a belt sander!
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Rubbing compound kept mostly on the lettering is the only really semi safe way(no guarantees) But if you want you can actually letter easyoff over the letters with a saran wrap guard all around everything taped down with duct tape and let sit about 10 minutes then wash off quickly. but you must use the liquid easy off or some paint removers are good too. not for repaint jobs at all, the only way then is to compound or sand and repaint. No guarantees on anything I have ever said LOL Bill PS Wear Rubber Gloves, Rubber apron, Safety Glasses and do in a ventilated area, with no wind or onlookers that could get hurt. and tell your customer the price is due up front with no guarantees of any kind
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Like Si says, You might try laquer thinner. I've never done this on vehicles, but have used Gripflex PC Ecology thinner (especially made for use on polycarb faces - lexan) to remove 1-Shot enamels from plexiglas faces. That stuff will krinkle up the lettering enamel quite fast. But again, have Never used on vehicles. So - Be Careful!
------------------ Bill Cosharek Bill Cosharek Signs N.Huntingdon,Pa
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I have had good success with Mr. Muscle. Park the vehicle near a water hose first. Mask around the area you want to remove. Leave on for just a minute or less, hose off quickly and apply again. Works for me.
TEST FIRST!!!!!!!
Or you could try brake fluid.....
NO NO NO DON"T ....just kidding!
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Good advice above. Here are some things I have observed.
When using Easy Off, have the side you are working on in direct sunlight. Easy off works with heat, but not a heat gun...the sun works better. Maybe you could try work lights with the halogen bulbs.
The first thing I would try is going to the nearest truck wash and see how much they can blast off with their high power units.
Holding the nozzel point blank on the lettering should get most of it. In fact you can even remove vinyl lettering this way.
Blue Beacon Truck Wash is the most notorious for destroying lettering and striping on semi trucks.
I agree with the clean with Easy Off and flush with water, then dry it off and do it again. On the tough spots we used rubbing compound and laquer thinner on a rag, and just rubbed lightly on the spot only.
If you can get the paint off, great. you saved your customer a new paint job. Even so there will always be a ghost of the old lettering.
On older paint jobs, the Easy Off will turn the paint a dark color, for instance a red truck might turn a dark nasty brownish red color when the Easy Off hits it. It will never come out.
I haven't removed sign paint this way for years, and I refuse to do so today. Most of the body shops around here offer this service, or did, and most people figure if the body shop can't get it off, then it needs repainted and the vehicle is already there anyway.
Hope this helps
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