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I am using Omega and an Edge 2, my problem is to get a foil that is listed twice in the ( 123 ) window to print the same time to save foil.
Let me explain, today we printed a name, the name was printed on Yellow vinyl. The name was faded from magenta to yellow. It also had a olympic blue stroke and a black outline & shadow. To get the magenta and the blue to be true colors I printed a white primer under them. Now the primer for the stroke is done in the stroke window and the primer for the magennta fade was done in the fill window.
When the job ran, the Edge printed the white primer for the stroke seperately from the fade, now keep in mind the stroke was touching the fade so If the edge had printed the stroke and the fade primer all together it could've been done in one pass, instead of two passes, useing twice the amount of foil.
Is it possible to get the software to acknowledge this or not.
I hope I explained this correctly
Thanks
------------------ Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA bob@creativesignworks.com
"Some people's kids"
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You have some of the job set up to run with a color as a regular print and some of the same color as overprint. Select all black or blue or whaterver using that selection method and turn all of the colors used as overprints. Bingo. One pass in that color.
I wouldn't call this a bug, but more of a feature that you need to know how to use. There may be times when you want one color section of a job to print direct in part and then overprint in others. I like to double check overprints by selecting them using that selection method and then comparing that with individual colors.
Most Strokes are applied as overprints, if I remember correctly. That might cause double pass. If you know how to use the Stroke feature, it can save you quite a bit of time.
Good luck, Mike Jackson
------------------ Mike Jackson Golden Era Studios Jackson Hole, Wy www.goldenstudios.com/
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I believe MJ has the correct answer for you. Normal and Overlap print with a different heat setting then Overprint. Since the EDGE prints at one heat setting per pass, the foil runs thru twice if the job contains Normal/Overlap and Overprint settings. The only way I’m aware of to overcome this is to make sure the foil is printed at either Normal/Overlap or Overprint, but not both. There are times when the design is not going to lend itself to this; in those cases the foil will run multiple times. Once you grasp the concept you’ll know before hand and be better able to price and time budget for the job.
Also, when Priming, if the job allows you to take advantage of it, try Global Prime. If you have a five color job and three of those colors are Primed, the EDGE wants to prime before each color. If all three colors are using the same primer color, select Global Prime, and the EDGE will print all colors which require primer to be primed at once to save foil (and time!).
Dave,
I give you my word, right here and right now. If you learn to use stroke, choke/spread, bleed, and trapline, and understand how each works, you will increase your profits and/or produce a nicer registered EDGE print. (especially on runs of small decals). Increase your profits because those tools can produce the effects quicker than you can do it manually. Produce a nicer product because those tools help compensate for EDGE / substrate/ plotter not being 100% dead on accurate, which allows you to produce a more exact product then the guy next door who doesn’t account for this.
I bet cough medicine had to be forced on you as well!
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Thanks guys I will look into this, and experiment. This is one of the first times I used the stroke feature, I used to apply an outline but I wanted to save time like Bob said. In reference to the global prime, I did try that on this particular job but when I did the primer disappeared completely from the foil line up.
The job printed nice, the customer was impressed and we did make money, next time I hope to do this job more efficient.
Thank again.
------------------ Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA bob@creativesignworks.com
"Some people's kids"
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I used to hate strokes too. I liked having those vector lines at the edges always defining the edge. I do a lot of maps and plot plans for apartment complexes and using strokes with the different choices of end shapes has saved me unimaginable hours of outlining on those floorplan shapes.
hope this helps
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