I saw you took a bit of teasing in the Attn: AI Users thread, so I thought I'd see if you'd like to help get something going for CorelDRAW users, whom I suspect are in great numbers here at Letterville.
I know you've been doing some step-by-steps, and I too have some things I've put together at our site. Note to Steve: I in no way wish to draw folks away from here. I can add links back here, or you can have the pages for here, whatever.
OK that said, here are three of my step-by-steps for CorelDRAW:
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If anyone needs help with something in Corel, you can drop me a line as well. I am quite proficient in Corel, especially for setting up plotter-ready effects...
------------------ Tyler Malinky
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tyler...welcome to the "elite"..eheheheheheh...dave grundy, me, gail from down under, glenn,...are old hands at corel..ive been at it since corel 3..and played a bit with 2....me and grundy cut from corels desktop...and ive been doin this with corel 3,4,(5 and 6 wont)7,8,9....you got any relitives over in penna?..knew some malinky's in the town iam from there, AVELLA, PA.
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Jim, very nice tutorial on color palletts. Do you think the same could be done to add gerber edge foil colors to corel? And do you think that OMEGA would recognize them when imported?
------------------ Tom & Sharon Giampia Creative Image Design Port Chester, NY
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Sorry, but I can't speak intelligently on Gerber Omega's ability to recognize spot colors from within CorelDRAW files. But, you'd think it would.
To find out, assign a Pantone fill (i.e. 185 red) to one or more objects in your Corel design. Then export an EPS, CMX or both. When the file imports into Omega, I'd think it'd identify the elements that have spot color fills, and prompt you to load it when printing to your EDGE ... at which time you could grab any EDGE foil you wish.
If that works, then the answer to your question is "Yes!" Here's how ...
Create a palette called EDGE Foils
Add colors from a spot color palette (Pantone vs. RGB or CMYK)
Rename the colors as you wish
But I'd first make sure that Omega recognizes the Pantone spots when embedded in and EPS or CMX file.
Regards,
------------------ Jim Doggett Vice President Summa, Inc.
Seattle, WA USA jim@summusa.com
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Hey joe, I have been using corel since version 4, then I used 5, then skipped to 8, which I am using now. Is 9 or 10 worth checking out? Any big advances that make it worth picking up? I dont think i have any realatives in PA, Just my family around northeast ohio (only a few), my grandfather in Las Vegas, my brother in Phoenix, and my dad in Monterrey, Mexico.
------------------ Tyler Malinky
A Step Above Signs Cleveland, Ohio 440.479.8129 440.842.1894 fax
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Jim..I have to disagree with you on one aspect of Corel 9. "Contour" was totally useless. Version 8 performed a "perfect" contour, albeit with a gazillion nodes but at least it was accurate. Version 9 contoured with a lot fewer nodes but that resulted in "flat spots". Version 10's contour is back to the same as 8.
If I were going to advise anyone...unless you want the "artistic media" tool, and are happy with version 8..stick with it.
Version 10 is fine but it is like all other programs..newer versions include additional features and that results in slower performance.
In my case..I recieve Corel files from people and I pretty much have to stay on top of the latest (and not always the greatest) versions so I can open the files I am sent.
My comments are concerning ONLY CorelDRAW..I seldom use CorelPAINT.
------------------ Dave Grundy AKA "applicator" on mIRC "stickin' sticky stuff to valuable vessels and vehicles!" in Granton, Ontario, Canada 1-519-225-2634 dave.grundy@quadro.net www.quadro.net/~shirley
Oh so true Dave. Dunknow what happend with contour on 9. Definitely a step back. But, contour has always been so dang slow that I never used it. I always use my Line tool, then convert it to a cutable vector. Actually, used to convert it ... with CoCut Pro, my outlines are converted on the fly.
Fast, super easy and accurate.
Have a great weekend, and thank for the palettes (they're up!).
------------------ Jim Doggett Vice President Summa, Inc.
Seattle, WA USA jim@summusa.com
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ok.. ok.. i cant resist the temptation when i see ppl talking about corel, here i am!
i do use paint heaps and thank god for ver9 trace.... 10 didnt improve trace any more than 9 but thats ok and yup im on your side fellas where contour is concerned... 10 has sum nasty lil bugs that has ment leaving 9 on the other puters here at work and 10 just on mine.... what a pain 10 was chucking out the default import/export lists... i didnt notice it till i went to send sumfin to my router... grrr
but remember 'he who dies with the most (latest) toys wins!!!'
lets get young bob D in here and we'll have a letterville corel mini meet hehehe
cheers gail
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sumtimes ya just gota!
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I agree Gail!!!!!!!! Bob D. says WAY too little!!!!!!!!!!
AND I wish you lived in my area code Gail...I have to keep hiding the telephone bills so that Shirl doesn't see my phone calls to the "Goddess of Corel" in Australia!
------------------ Dave Grundy AKA "applicator" on mIRC "stickin' sticky stuff to valuable vessels and vehicles!" in Granton, Ontario, Canada 1-519-225-2634 dave.grundy@quadro.net www.quadro.net/~shirley
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after seeing up-over and meeting all u fine ppl i wish we lived closer toooo! i miss your smiles!!!
my phone bill was nasty as well... i forgot that i'd diverted the shop phone to devo's mobile so guess who paid the diversion charge for our last little chat hehehehe from local to mobile is one thing but from international to mobile.. whoa!
it was still worth it!!!!!
cheers gail
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taurus@kooee.com.au
sumtimes ya just gota!
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I would still love to know how to assign a .001 outline in Corel 10. Both our Laser and Plotter must have that .001 to function, no other value will work.
I called Corel support, they stated that we could no longer assign the .001 outline. I found a work-around, but it takes many clicks to accomplish it, and it will not work with text.
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I have used Corel since 4 and have found many ways to do things I need it to do, but I make no claim to fame here... I can just help out here and there.
A note on Corel 10... even with the recent patch it still has a memory leak (continuously sucks up memory until it dogs out your computer) and it crashes, of course taking everything with it if you haven't SAVED... Buuuuuuut, it has an excellent "export to .pdf" feature I can't live without. So I have both loaded on this machine with Win2000. C10 just blows away C8 in the .pdf dept. (never tried 9, how does C9 handle .pdf's?)
So anyway... if your puter's sputin' out while in C10- that's "one" of the reasons.
The Learned to love Corel side of the Moon
------------------ The Moon aka: Stefenie Harris Moonlight Designs Pollock Pines, CA learnin' somethin' new every day!
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danny ive goten away with the 'hairline' setting for my plotter but your right 10 has a few yuk bits.... still, like Stefenie says the export to pdf is cool export to plt however has a few problems but hey, there is always room for improvement and knowing corel they will sort it out
cheers gail
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Ok, ok, I'm here too. I always try to help out when I can. :P
I figure it's better to say too little than to say too much. ha ha
Anyway Danny, I figured out a solution for you. I tried it in Corel 10 and it worked just fine for me. Then I found out that it works in the pen docker, but not in the pen flyout on the main toolbar or the property bar. Weird. You need this docker:
You can get this (the old style pen dialog box and also the old style contour box) by following these steps. For some reason, they're kind of hidden.
Go to the Tools pull down menu Select Options Click on the (+) sign beside Customization Click on the word Commands You should see some little binoculars at the top - click on that and type in Pen and do a search. It will find several items. Just keep hitting Find Next until it says "Pen Docker Window" in the Tooltip Help Box below the Find box that you're in. Once you have that, just click on the little pen icon that it's highlighting and drag it right out onto your main toolbar on the left. Close down the Options box. Click on the new Pen icon, and your pen docker should appear on the right hand side of the screen. You should have easy access to it from now on.
Just click on the edit button and type in 0.001 and then Apply.
Like I said, you can follow the same directions to get the Contour Docker Window.
Hope that's what you needed.
------------------ Bob Darnell London, Ontario, Canada
Thank you for responding to our .001 outline problem in Corel 10.
I don't want to take advantage of your generosity........
Your instructions were very clear, and I'm O.K. until the final step.
Our screen shot looks exactly like the one you posted. When I click edit, I get a new dialog box. When I type in the value .001, it defaults back to .000 just like in the normal toolbar flyout.
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I am a little confused....(what's new?) In Corel 10 my default text attributes are no fill and "hairline" outline. I just typed a word and opened the pen tool flyout and assigned that word a .001" outline, hit OK and the outline changed to .001" and stayed that way. It doesn't seem to be a problem for me.
------------------ Dave Grundy AKA "applicator" on mIRC "stickin' sticky stuff to valuable vessels and vehicles!" in Granton, Ontario, Canada 1-519-225-2634 dave.grundy@quadro.net www.quadro.net/~shirley
If we assign an .001 outline, it defaults back to .000.
BOB..... I downloaded build 10.427. The Docker now works just as you described. We can definitely now assign .001 via the docker, It now makes us functional again.
You did what the Corel Tech could not... we deeply appreciate it!
Dan
Drop my an e-mail with an address along with your size and I'll send you a HitKing Sports shirt.
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Jim..I use the hairline outline to plot from Corel..Apparently Danny's machines need an .001" outlike to work.
I guess the fact that I already had the service patch installed explained why I didn't have a problem assigning .001" outline.
------------------ Dave Grundy AKA "applicator" on mIRC "stickin' sticky stuff to valuable vessels and vehicles!" in Granton, Ontario, Canada 1-519-225-2634 dave.grundy@quadro.net www.quadro.net/~shirley
Since we're assuming, Danny might be better off to use the HPGL (PLT) Export, rather than the print driver. Then copy the file out to port.
The Export filter has a "Pen Unused" button that resolves any line weight issues. It also allows you to set the plot speed, and has options for "Remove Hidden Lines" and "Auto Welding."
Best of all, it bypasses the Windows Print Manager, so there is no page size limit ... I've tested 23 inches by 100 feet, with no problems. Fast and smooth.
Summa cutters have a utility (Cutter Control 4.0) that allows you to setup "Hot Folders." Cutter Control monitors the folder that users assign as Hot. Then it automatically grabs any PLT/HPGL file that goes into the Folder and sends it directly to the cutter ... and then either saves or deletes the file, depending upon preferences. This is not as slick as a full-on cutting program. But it is superior to printer drivers that are subject to Windows' page size limitation. Unfortunately, Cutter Control only works with our cutters.
But, all cutters can accept HPGL plot data that's copied out to port. A quick call to your cutter maker's tech support folks should garner an easy how-to on sending data directly to your cutter. And another advantage over printer drivers is that this method is not limited to an LPT port. You can attach via Serial or USB as well, freeing up the LPT port for your printer.
Best Regards, ------------------ Jim Doggett Vice President Summa, Inc.
Seattle, WA USA jim@summusa.com
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I need the .001 outline for both our plotter and our laser. Neither machine will recognize another value. The laser uses the the .001 outline for vector cutting.
The print drivers work great. It has never been an issue until the Corel 10 thing came about.
We cannot assign the .001 value from the flyout...but Bob was kind enough to find us a work-around using a docker.
After lunch time today, I had all of the designers plotting and engraving efficiently from Corel 10.
Thanks for explaining the .001" requirement. If you're doing mostly work that will be sent via an HPGL printer driver, it might be easier to simply make an .001" outline your default. With nothing selected, clicking on the Outline tool brings up this window:
Check the Graphic and Artistic Text boxes; hit OK; then choose any line weight style or color you wish.
You may also want to do the same with you fills, by going to the fill tool (perhaps apply No Fill as the default).
Regards,
Jim
------------------ Jim Doggett Vice President Summa, Inc.
Seattle, WA USA jim@summusa.com
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just caught up with the posts and saw the .001 issue i also have it set as default, driving an 12 yr old plotter from corel means this is a requirement for me, its a reliability issue.
my router works as was mentioned above using the hpgl (plt) setup one of the things you may see using 10 and the plt output is that many of the curves have a real problem... sorta like ver9 contour did, flatening bits that were nice curves before export. the service patch helped but not on every thing... just sumfin to watch out for
happy corel-ing gail
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Jim...Please tell me how you capture those dialogue boxes and post them with such clarity?????
I have never seen a decent explanation on how to do it...If you tell me, I'll tell everyone I know that they should buy a Summa cutter!!!!!! (well... maybe not everyone I know!hahahahaha)
------------------ Dave Grundy AKA "applicator" on mIRC "stickin' sticky stuff to valuable vessels and vehicles!" in Granton, Ontario, Canada 1-519-225-2634 dave.grundy@quadro.net www.quadro.net/~shirley
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