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I am planning to spray some Frog Juice on some Edge prints. I was practicing on some plain vinyl and can't seem to get a smooth coat. Is that how Frog Juice should be or am I doing something wrong? Any comments/suggestions will be appreciated!
------------------ Amy Brown AMBO Design Lake Helen, FL jabrown@cfl.rr.com
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Hi Amy! The Frog Juice should dry smooth and shiny. Even though the directions say to spray several thin coats, I found that one or two heavy coats got the best results. I also found that you can speed up the drying process with a blow dryer, although this results in a less glossy finish.
Also, take the warnings on the can very seriously. There's some nasty chemicals in that stuff. Wear a proper respirator and don't spray it around any children or pets!
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Amy...sounds like whats happening is sometning called Orange Peel....too much/heavy-too close/too fast kinda thing....clear has no room to flow out once its on the surface,so for an easy explanation it kinda runs into itself and forms rough looking high and low spots....try this...lay it flat after you spray it,back off the distance you are from the surface some,make the first coat a light tack or 'dust' coat,wait a little bit longer than you have been b4 applying the follow up coats and then build them up from there....i'm assuming youre using the can version...if youre spraying it out a gun,drop your air pressure at the gun,...but don't ttry buiding up a complete glosss on just one coat,dont be afraid t use 3 lighter ones instead of one heavy one....saying that b/c i just read Terry's response soon as i clicked.....try the lighter coats first,you're in a more humid climate like i am and its gonna take longer to dry for you than it will for terry
Is the surface you are getting a coarse, grainy texture or is it slick yet still wavy (like an orange, hence "orange peel")?
If it's coarse, you need to lay down a bit more Frogjuice. Hold the can closer to the vinyl so more goes onto the surface and less into the air, or move the can slower.
I have great luck using a dust coat first, then a medium coat, then finally a heavier "wet" coat.
If the Frogjuice looks coarse or grainy when still wet, that's how it will dry. If the FJ has a smooth shiny fluid appearance when still wet, that's how it will look when dry.
I wouldnt worry too much about orange peel on vinyl.. it's only vinyl.. and the vinyl surface isnt that level to begin with.
------------------ Mike Pipes Digital Illusion Custom Graphics Lake Havasu City, AZ http://www.stickerpimp.com
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Maybe try using the can and brush. I did this on a few large prints we matted to pvc board and they turned out really nice. Be careful of airbubbles. One of the prints had a few bubbles that dried that way. They were almost all fixed with a 2nd coat.
Good Luck.
Diane Summit Signs Sellersville, PA
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Either all of that or try Pelucid and not have bubbles, orange peeling and rough coats.
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Amy, All of the above is true I just wanted to add one thing...I've learned never to spray on a rainy/foggy day as it's almost impossible to get a nice glossy finish then.
------------------ Mark Perkins Performance Signs & Graphics Eunice, Louisiana "The heart of Cajun Country"
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I have to agree with both Terry and Linda Aigle D'Argent on this one...I found that if I sprayed more than needed the results were better and shake rattle and rock that can as often as you can!
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we use foamy brushes with th canned stuff. works great. slop it on heavy and lay it off. don't try to work it too much or it will get funky marks in it.
on big inkjet prints, we use a roller and the other guy follows right in behind with the foamy brush to lay it off and get the bubbles out.
works for us... maybe it will for you, too!
have a great one!
------------------ Bruce Bowers DrCAS Signtech
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