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David Wright
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We have discussed MDO versus alumalite and others many times here, and MDO seems to be the least of choices for good reasons.
I just went by a customers business and noticed the sign I did a month ago delaminating ( veneer warping). Man, that was 3/4" two sided with a good primer and 3 coats of paint, especially on the edges. There is nothing more I can do but quit using the damn product. What scares me is, I have over 50, forty inch circular logos out there already for a national auto liquidator. What condition are a lot of those in? This week I have to start another order for 25 more, should I switch? How do I ween them off this? And what cuts and shapes as well as mdo?
If I tell them the reason why the change, suspicions will be overly raised on all the past jobs now.
Omega board is a product I have not used much, is it a better option? Definately not crezon.

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Wyandotte, Michigan
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Pierre St.Marie
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Hey, David. Omega board is a better option than MDO, but have you tried 4mm Dibond yet? Tensile strength is right there for use as a 4'x8', and it sure looks better. I've been using it now for 4 years. Our generals prefer it for job site signs because it's completely reusable. It's fast to cut and tough enough for any sign. We even channel redwood 2x2s and make slide in frames for it. Looks great.

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Kalispell, Montana
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Glenn Taylor
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David,
I think I'd contact my distributor and send him a photo of the sign. Also, I would ask the distributor to start carrying Signal rather than Crezon.

Here is something that may help some of the rookies to know what you and I are discussing.... http://www.simpson-plywood.com/products.htm

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cheryl nordby
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David....a few years ago I had the same problem. I took photos of what happened. Most of the MDO I used got huge bubbles and was peeling. Simpson gave me quite a bit of credit. I don't think I had to buy MDO for over a year. But I am using more and more Polymetal and Intecel. MDO is too much work and unreliable anymore.

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Joey Madden
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David, more and more contractors of new homes are using MDO for building purposes compared to signmakers using it for signage.

If you were a manufacturer of MDO, who would be more important to satisfy? Its all in supply and demand.......

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David Wright
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In the case of my 25 piece order I am going to try Omega board. For a lot of signs already, I do use alumalite but think I will step it up to Dibond.
Thanks for the responses.

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Wyandotte, Michigan
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Si Allen
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Luckily and also unluckily...there are many versions of MDO
If you are able to get the good stuff...it is just about perfect for signs, all the rest is crap!
Luckily for Californians, Commercial Sign Supply carries the good version of MDO and will supply it pre-coated or just primed. Since they buy it by the truckload, they insist on the right grade...never had a problem with it.
I might add that I am not connected with Commercial sign Supply...just a customer!

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Pierre St.Marie
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Hey, Si! How come all the letters you write me have CSC in the upper right corner. Huh? Huh?

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St.Marie Graphics
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Kalispell, Montana
stmariegraphics@centurytel.net http://www.stmariegraphics.com
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Ron Percell
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I'd have to agree with Si. We havent seen to many problems out here in california.

I believe there's over 30 differnet grades available.

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Rob Larkham
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I have used some 1/2 pvc sheets and had good luck. you will have to coat with Tycote first to except enamels. $70- $80 a sheet.

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Chester, MA
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Si Allen
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Heheheheh...Pierre...no more MDO post cards! Takes too much postage! Gonna start using coroplas...as soon as I can figger out how to get the ink from beading up!

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What is Diabond?

D&D

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