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Miles Cullinane
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Glenn
I was wondering about your technique when it comes to awnings. I am doing a lot of work on both the sunbrella type fabric (acrylic paint) and a small amount of work on the weave top pvc fabric (screen ink) .
I read your step by step and what interests me is the fabric you are working on. I know that the are basically 2 types of screen ink right? But the one you mentioned wouldn’t be available here in Ireland but maybe there’s a substitute that I can get, so what other uses would the ink you use have?
What’s the type of mask that you use ? are they different for the two types of material? I purchased six rolls from the states last November (20Yd x 18”) from Action Art, it’s for the sunbrella type fabric. Great stuff. I’m on to my third roll and that’s a lot for my business. But it takes a lot of coats of paint, first base coat in the same colour and then 2-3 coats of finish colour. It’s a real pain if you have to remask for a two colour overlay job.
Next part of this letter almost goes without saying but only almost…………….!
Thanks for choosing to be a letterhead in the true sense of the meaning. I would not have taken on this customer if I hadn’t had the BB to research the skills and materials needed. I have done over $7000 with them since November and I am a one man shop!
Thanks for any help, might meet on chat some time .

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Hiya Miles!

For a mask, you can use any intermediate grade vinyl you happen to have on hand. I use the 3M Super77 spray adhesive to help the mask to stick to the Sunbrella fabric.

The PermaFlex ink is from Nazdar. If you can get Nazdar, you can get PermaFlex. The reason why I use Permaflex is that it is thick, it won't bleed, can be recoated while the first coat is still wet, and its high opacity.

I buy the ink 4 quarts at a time. I've found that they can be tinted with One Shot without any adverse effects. It only works with canvas-like fabrics.

Also, I don't remask anything. If you create your mask file properly, you just start from the center and work outward to the next color, peeling away the next section of the mask. As soon as I get back to my house (I'm at the shop working right now), I'll e-mail you some pics of other awnings we've done that were multi colored.

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Thanks for the response Glenn

I am going to talk to the screen printer I get my ink from and I know he has two types of ink one for one type of work and one for another. does that sound normal to you?
have you not seen ActionArts mask material? it's made only for the fabric we're speaking about, the grip is great on it

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Miles
If your not worried about back lighting the awning you can.
Wash it down with soap and water and wipe clean.
Then next step is to tooth it with Accetone or Lacquer thinners.
Next prep it with "Enam-L-Koat" product.
Mask and paint with One-Shot if you like.

Gripflex paints or Lacros, or Vinyl inks will work well on the sub-straights.

Wishing you well on your projects.

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Stephen I guess you are talking about a PVC type material. I do clean them with screen ink thinners and then paint through a mask of oracle banner vinyl with screen ink. two coats applied quickly one on top of the other with just a quick blast from a hair dryer for a minute or two.
It's the canvas material that I am interested in. I am using what you call latex paints and the coverage is not great so a lot of coats needed therefore a lot of time. the finished is very good but I was thinking that screen ink on the canvas might work without the usual bleeds.

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Miles,

I've never tried the ActionMask. Been too lazy, I guess. I'll have to check into it.

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Here's the link to their site.

http://www.fabtac.com/

hope that's okay steve.
i'll send this page to the company and see if they are interested in advertising

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