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Gavin Chachere
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Ok...since steve's one week hiatus on off topic (OT for those VIP's on the Q-T) posts has apparently expired,does this mean that we can all post ridiculous non sign related topics in an effort to prove how much smarter we are than the rest of the people on the board? And is it does,are there rules for this? must we toss bigger words than we normally use around here in print or can we use just plain common english? Should we post just once,or continue posting repeatedly,sometimes on the minute to let the uniformed know that we do indeed believe we are smarter than the rest? Can we act like adults,or ..because we're so smart...act like third graders who got spit at on the bus then pout and cry for mommy when we can't have our way? Should we actually (foriegn concept here) work during the day,or post psuedo-intellectual BS which has absolutely no effect on anyones life? These are things,that being younger than most here,i simply just don't know......but i'm sure someone here is wise enuff to fill me in and i've started counting the nancybaby emails already,gee another sleepless 2min and more folks who probably arent coming over to dinner....as they say,thats life.....the point of this post? maybe just to get people to read this than go back and re-read the OT(off topic--remember VIP/QT/** * *** * *** ** * secret letterhead code) political posts and stop and think....are you educating somebody with it or posting it just b/c you need attention and know that slapping something controversial up there will guarentee 35 replies,publicity and fifty pissed off people? Gee..i don't know..do you? Someone must with all the geniuses and nobel prize winners we have posting lately...jeeze i'm gonna shut up b4 i sound like a popmpous speaker at a letterhead meet.....so b4 i go..*** **** * ******** * *********** * *** * **** * *** ** * ***** ** * *** * ***** * * **** *** ** *** **** *** **** ***....and if that offends someone...welll...*** * *** * *** * * ******** * *** * ** **** * ** *

later

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Gavin Chachere
aka Zeeman
Miller Supply Co./Ozone Signs & Grafix
New Orleans La.
www.millersupply.net
www.ozonegrafix.com


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Mark Fair Signs
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To hope that this bullboard would be confined to signs only is unrealistic.

During my busy day i talk with my customer's about the weather, politics, family and football as well as sign needs.(it's called interaction)

It would be pretty boring for my customer if all i wanted to talk about were signs.

if the customer says, "Man it is hot outside", then i will talk about the weather and get around to talking signs.

what if i said, "I don't want to talk about the weather or politics with you dammit! i want to talk about signs!"

i know that is a shi%%ty illustration i just gave!!!

hahahhahahahahaa

if ya don't like the topic, then don't read it.
ultimately the topics no one is interested in will disappear soon.

i wish i wuz in new orleans right now eating a big old plate of mudbugs and drinkin' a dixie beer!

have a great memorial day,


mark

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Mark Fair

Mark Fair Signs
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Montgomery, Alabama 36107
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Pierre St.Marie
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Geez, Gavin. Get a grip! TVs, radios and computers have switches and dials. Don't look, don't listen don't read! Either that or have your mommy switch it off for you. and if that offends someone...well...,

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St.Marie Graphics
& Makin' Tracks Sound Studio
Kalispell, Montana
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Dave Grundy
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Well Gavin...I wish I could agree or disagree with you..Unfortunately, every time I make a comment about what should or should not be discussed here I get a load of crap dumped on me.

I agree with ya...But I just can't say it publicly. (shhhh this is between you and me..OK?..I can see no reason for the American political crap, that very few outside of the U.S. and only about 10% of those who live in the U.S. find interesting, to become the most controversial things that are posted on this very international BB).

As Bob Rochon says..."some people's kids!"

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in Granton, Ontario, Canada
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Pierre St.Marie
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HEY! There's Grundy! Somebody hand me a shovel!!

gotcha, Davey!

:^)

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St.Marie Graphics
& Makin' Tracks Sound Studio
Kalispell, Montana
stmariegraphics@centurytel.net http://www.stmariegraphics.com
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Kissymatina
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Gavin,
I don't read the OT posts. When I get on here it is for "sign stuff". Sometimes though, there is a thread title and I go in and read it because the title doesn't say OT. As soon as I see it's OT, I click my back button.

Granted, we talk to customers about everything under the sun, but this BB was intended for "sign stuff".

Now, I'm not going to complain because people post OT stuff, I just appreciate those who include OT in their titles. Saves me time when I'm checking out the BB between jobs.

So, to all those who put OT in the title of your OT posts, I thank you. To those who don't, (I'm sure it's just an oversite), please start putting OT in your title. Thank you.

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Chris King
Paper Works & Graphix
Indiana, PA


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Corey Wine
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If "I" submit an off topic post, I "WILL" start writing OT with it, o.k. Chris?

I think my submitals are merely sign related though.

Gavin, I don't think anyones offended but you are definately "Angry".....lay off the caffiene!

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Corey Wine
signCONCEPTS
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Adrienne Pereira
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Zee....take a break, honey, have a cookie!!!

Mark, you just remeinded me I got a Dixie beer chillin' in the fridge right now!!!!

A

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Adrienne Morgan
Splash Signs
www.splashsigns.com
"Rainkatt'on chat

Benicia, CA
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cheryl nordby
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So Gavin> What exactly is your point?

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Ken Morse
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Cheryl, his point is he is frustrated and doesn't know about your advice regarding chocolate.

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Ken Morse
Jamn Graphics
Santa Cruz, CA


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Joey Madden
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Hey Chris, this BB is not just for sign stuff or I wouldn't be here. And to think that Steve Shortreed want to include Tattooists to join in

Hey sailor! want to have a good time?

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HotLines Joey Madden,47 years in the Classic Art of Pinstriping
Grants Pass, Oregon
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Steve Shortreed
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The real problem as I see it is not the OT posts.

Over the years, we have celebrated births, marriages and good times together. There have also been times we have done all we can to comfort each other when personal tragety strikes. I know better than anyone how inspiring and comforting you have made me feel during my numerous heart crisis.

All the above had little to do with signs, but everything to do with our original dreams for Letterville. Anything that directly affects the family is not OT and should be talked about.

Somewhere along the line, some of you have forgotten that family comes first in Letterville. You have forgotten that Letterville has no geographical, political, religious or other borders. We come together here to discuss what unites us as signmakers and people. We are here to promote an idea of sharing our knowledge and spirit through a movement we call Letterheads.

I find myself very frustrated tonight. Dispite our repeated requests, some feel they have some special right to use our BB to carry out their personal battles with no regard to the rest of us. It has to stop!

I'm personally fed up with political discussions that have nothing to do with our trade or Letterheads. Is the fact that you are a democrate or republican more important than what brings us to Letterville? If your answer is yes, I suggest you find somewhere else to hang your hat.
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Steve Shortreed
144 Hill St., E.
Fergus, Ontario
Canada N1M 1G9
519-787-2673
steve@letterhead.com
ICQ 316338
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Mark Fair Signs
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well steve , what can i tell ya?

your repeated attempts are not working bubba!

don't be sad, be glad that this many folks wish to express their opinions about signs and life.
and send you money for a "bulletin board".

dreams dont' always come true my friend.

if you need too, get a day job.

yer buddy,

mark

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Mark Fair

Mark Fair Signs
http://www.markfair.com

Home of "Sign of the Month
http://www.markfair.com/signomonth.html

2162 Mt. Meigs Road
Montgomery, Alabama 36107
334-262-4449

mark@markfair.com



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Brad Funk
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Try one of the other boards. They are almost always "on topic", and if you have noticed very boring. I simply dont read posts i am not interested in, its that easy!

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Brad Funk
Artisan Signs
Phoenix, AZ
www.artisan-signs.com

[This message has been edited by AZBrad (edited May 25, 2001).]


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Bruce Evans
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What amazes me is regarding people who complain about spam email resulting from this board. Yet.....those people like to toss OT posts on this board. To me, it's no different. The old "if you don't like it, don't read it" philosophy should apply to spam as well. To me it's very clear. "Letterhead & Pinhead talk"!! what is so hard about that? There should simply be another board added for "Chit chat & B.S.". Seems to me it would seperate the crap from the content.

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Bruce Evans
Chromark Design-A-Sign
Covina , CA
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Gavin Chachere
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My point exactly Steve...if everyone rereads what i said...its not the OT posts...its the immediate transition from adult to child that happens when some people read em...

Now Angry? no
angry is when i get opiniated....what gets me is that people on this board want and for the most part should be treated like the industry leaders,or old masters.....and thats fine,should be that way...until crap like this starts....then what right do you have? Ever wonder why you dont see franchise shops post here? where are they? They arent all bad...maybe they come here looking to learn something and have some fun and read a few posts and say screw this place what a buncha flaming nutbags and then not come back? those 'leaving forever''s i believe,and i do think on occasion that does happen...not just franchise shops,other sign makers as well....or how many choose to read only b/c of it? Now was it mean spirited or personal? even though some are bound to take it that way,no....maybe i'm one of the only ones not afraid to un-politically correct and say something about it,god forbid reality intrude here...but when we can't even keep an OT post on the OT it was designed for...cmon....Pierre....smile when you say that...
Gavin Chachere
aka Zeeman
Miller Supply Co./Ozone Signs & Grafix
New Orleans La.
www.millersupply.net
www.ozonegrafix.com

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Gavin Chachere
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Mark...for god sake's man eat the crawfish,but don't drink Dixie...horrible stuff,canal water would be better....

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Gavin Chachere
aka Zeeman
Miller Supply Co./Ozone Signs & Grafix
New Orleans La.
www.millersupply.net
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Mark Fair Signs
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hey gavin,

we have finally reached some common ground bubba.

i attended the new orleans jazz festival many years ago and had dinner at K-paul's.
the blackened redfish was incredible along with anythang along the lines of canjun cuisine i could poke into my face!!! LOL

then i went to a bar on bourbon street and decided to have myself a "dixie beer"
i agree it sucked!

anytime you are up in my neck of the woods, you are welcome my friend.

just another sign guy,

mark

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Mark Fair

Mark Fair Signs
http://www.markfair.com

Home of "Sign of the Month
http://www.markfair.com/signomonth.html

2162 Mt. Meigs Road
Montgomery, Alabama 36107
334-262-4449

mark@markfair.com



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Adrienne Pereira
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But I like Dixie beer........
Betcha never tried Romulan Ale!!

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Adrienne Morgan
Splash Signs
www.splashsigns.com
"Rainkatt'on chat

Benicia, CA
707-550-4553
adrienne@splashsigns.com


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Mark Fair Signs
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if you like dixie beer then i like it too "A"

when i met you at jimmy chatham's meet in jawja, you told me about your brother who is the great chef.

does he know how to cook cajun?

i myself love to cook.
my mamma taught me how to cook.

cooking is the same thang as mixin' paint.
add a little of this and a little of that.

you take care girl,

mark

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Mark Fair

Mark Fair Signs
http://www.markfair.com

Home of "Sign of the Month
http://www.markfair.com/signomonth.html

2162 Mt. Meigs Road
Montgomery, Alabama 36107
334-262-4449

mark@markfair.com



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Gavin,

I can relate to your frustration, and I can empathise with Steve as well.

This has got to be disheartening to see such personal slams and character bashing happening right before you Steve.

I saw that post about the US polotics show up yesterday, I personally was not going to read it, untill I read this post. Then I was curious what all the comotion was about.

So I read some of the posts and was amazed.
absolutely amazed at the lack of maturity and professionalism of some certain few.

What we need is personal policing, not Steve to police us or our emotions. But as we see all the time people DON'T take personal responsibility and then some law maker or in this case a moderator may be forced to take action to police this place.

This issue is gonna make or break this place, and I for one am pissed!

I, like many have been here for quite a while and, to think the quality of this board is getting deminished for the lack of responsibilty of a few childish morons gets me tweaked.

Maybe a posting suspention for continued personal slandering might be in order.

I'd rather see the continued antagonisers go away then the mature responsible talented people that contribute on a positive level to this place.

Just my 2 cents worth.

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Bob Rochon
Creative Signworks
Millbury, MA
bob@creativesignworks.com

"Some people's kids"



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Yo.....Gavin! I was smilin' the whole time.........hoping you were too! C'mon, Steve. I see VERY few actual "mean spirited" posts here. Everyone loses it once in a while. We're only human. I hang out here second only to the "old guys" Swiss forum where actual internet minutes are concerned. If I had to read nothing BUT sign subjects on this very cool board, I probably would spend far less time here. I love what I do, (BTW...starting a very large mural carving today) but I'd go nuts if I could only communcate in sign-language with fellow letterheads. I stand before you.....a very humbled, very docile, very soft spoken, very.....................................................................CONSERVATIVE FIREARMS FANATIC!!! YEAH!!!

hehehehehe

Fire away, but be careful of my old dog. He's gunshy.

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St.Marie Graphics
& Makin' Tracks Sound Studio
Kalispell, Montana
stmariegraphics@centurytel.net http://www.stmariegraphics.com
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We're chiseling every day of the week! :^)



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Mark, my brother is in Korea guest cheffing for the Grand Hyatt Regency...he sent me a couple of photos of some of the dishes he's doing there right now....check it out (there's recipes too!)
http://www.splashsigns.com/CHEF.HTML
I've been trying to get him to go to N.O. and check out the local quizzeen!!
Love them swimps!!!!

Me? I like to do down home style cooking,someday I wanna learn how to make them biscuits of yours!!
A
'Powder-milk biscuits, golly they're tasty and expeditious!'

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Adrienne Morgan
Splash Signs
www.splashsigns.com
"Rainkatt'on chat

Benicia, CA
707-550-4553
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Have you ever made a turn onto a one-way street headed in the wrong direction because the "Do Not Enter" sign was not place properly? You just get the hell outta der, man.
I keep this in mind when I open any post. Could be, I might be in a real pissed mood and don't want to read anything about somebody's jollies at that moment, so I wait till I'm over it and read about the good news when I can enjoy it. Just so long as they have a fair subject line to let me know where they are starting the post. Now, as far as where the rest of you track the manure on the dancehall floor, that can get pretty far off the mark, or on the mark, depending on which Mark replied. So here's my take on it:
Politics --- Who got the ball?

Wa'Yat Gavin? Are you related to the Chacheres lived over in Gretna on Franklin Ave. in front of the Sign shop, Ernest and Dalhia.
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Santo Brocato
Promotion Graphics & Letters
Youngsville LA.


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