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ScooterX
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i just landed a little job and need some ideas. the customer has an awning with the previous tenants name on the fascia flap (the part that hangs off the front of the crank-out awning). the flap is made of the same royal blue fabric as the awning. the customer wants his business name painted onto a piece of matching blue fabric and just glued over the original.

So, i'm guessing i can track down the awning folks and get a couple of feet of matching fabric. any suggestions on how to glue the flap on? (my preference would be to replace the whole flap, 9 feet long, but he only wants to pay $150 and since he suggested just making a patch, i'll go with it).

also, do i need to prime the area where the new name will be painted? do i just paint the name in 1-Shot directly on the fabric? Would Deka be better? (the design is already set - it matches a large sign somebody else is making - i only got the flap) it is red letters with yellow "flame" outline and will be going over blue canvas (poly?nylon?).

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PKing
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Is the part you are doing CANVAS? Are you covering Canvas with a NYLON?(the Flap?
Why can't you just coat the whole flap?
IF the awning is canvas with a name already painted on it, and you are changing names.You are seeing where Both primer AND enamel has "SOAKED" into the canvas fabric like a ghost.Weather you coat out the flap to get the same soaking,or you Glue other fabric over it to cover,you will STILL have to go "On Location"
Seems to me I would rather coat the whole area out than to trust some sort of glue that might or might not stick.
I would be interested in what others do in this situation.

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hi Pat,
i'm putting canvas over canvas. i'm guessing that awning canvas is cotton/poly/nylon blend. its not a vinyl banner - its just a canvas patch over a canvas awning. the other route would be to paint onto some kind of vinyl, paint out the awning, and apply the vinyl piece onto the awning, but then i'm trying to stick vinyl onto something flapping in the wind. the canvas overlay (patch) seems like the easiest way to me.

i have to follow their design, and i didn't want to try to paint a three-color design up in the air (like it says, i'm a beginner). maybe i'm missing a simpler solution? (oh, and i bid $150 to do it).

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Kevin Landry
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I have worn many a patch in my younger years. (no money for new pants) The only ones that worked are the patches you sew on.

I don't think that any type of glue will last for any length of time. You know how much this stuff expands and contracts. You will have a huge glue mark around it within a year and then the pealing will start.
Grommeting your patch and securing it to the present canvas might also work.

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This may not fit your budget, but this will work. You make a canvas panel with cording sewn into the top and bottom edges. Cording may not the the right name for the material, but think of it as 1/8" plastic rope.

What this does is give you a semi-rigid panel that can be attached with rivets. The cording helps make it lay flat. We have done this twice and it works very well.

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Concerning "Flapping in the Wind". I have always used a ridgid piece of material,approx the same size as the panel.Placed BEHIND said panel with the use of "C-Clamps" to hold together and had no problems with this method.

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