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I've been asked to make a 2 sided banner. A local supplier awning supplier can make the raw banner with 'block out' banner material however, the front side is glossy, smooth and appears to be vinyl receptive while the back side has a flat, textured finish. The supplier claims that vinyl letters will stick to the back side however this company doesn't actually make signs and can't guarantee the adhesion of vinyl letters.
I seem to recall that on this board I've heard that banners can be coated with something to make them vinyl receptive. Would that work in my situation because this is kind of a rush job. Or any other ideas???
Happy Signing......Marty
------------------ Marty Happy Signmaker Since 1974 Happy Ad Sign & Design Regina SK, Canada S4N 5K4
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marty ive done some banners that were single sided stock and put lettering on the back....i wash the back down with laqure thinner...cleans any residue off and softens the vinyl a little.....dont gar-on-tee the back side....but ive got em out there for close to 2 years..now..
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The last opaque banner I purchased from grimco had a instruction sheet telling me to use alcohol to clean the banner first. We cleaned and lettered both sides, it's only been about a month ago and no problems yet!
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I believe I still have the sample Rapid Tac II that you sent me some time ago. Thank you again by the way. This is probably the ideal time to use it. Do I use it to clean the backside of the banner or to apply the lettering. Normally I apply all vinyl dry except overlays that require tight registration.
The speed of replies here is just amazing. Thanks all!
Happy Signing......Marty
------------------ Marty Happy Signmaker Since 1974 Happy Ad Sign & Design Regina SK, Canada S4N 5K4
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Marty, its very important to clean ONLY with rtII and a CHEAP grocery store paper towell. Otherwise it is not going to bond well !! Remember, don't clean with anything else(unless its Rapid Prep.
Roger
------------------ Roger Bailey Rapid Tac Incorporated Waikoloa, Hawaii
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I've done 3 lately..no problems with sticking..Correct me if I'm wrong but all banners should be vinyl receptive unless specified. Most are not enamel receptive...
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Marty, because of the texturing, you are more prone to failure on the back side of those banners, vinyl receptive or not. I would add to the prepping advice above that you use a heat gun to help the vinyl conform to the texture and you'll find that the vinyl will really hold on tight. Also, be sure to apply the vinyl dry.
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We have tested with several "banner companys" in the past, some of the material was very textured. The textured banner material made no difference in "wet application", all the wet applications went down hard and conformed to the texture imediatly.
The "trick" CLEANING, you have to follow the instructions and CLEAN as we tell you, this will insure a dynamic bond (in terms of wet application).
Roger
------------------ Roger Bailey Rapid Tac Incorporated Waikoloa, Hawaii
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