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I am fairly new here, and I am sure this has been covered in some forum or thread, But, how cool if our paid membership included a membership plaque or sign to proudly display in our shop?? Much like we display a Chamber of Commerce plaque in our sales area.
Just a thought, but I'm in even if it means the Letterville taxes slightly increase to cover it. It might even be fun to open a contest each year to design this label or, make it renewable each year with a new updated annual sticker, much like license plate renewams.....Just a thought
""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers Posts: 3484 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003
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That would be nice for you car as well, that way Si won't flip me off again when I honk at him on the freeway when I pass his van (you know I'm kidding Si, you just gave me a dirty look )
-------------------- Rick Chavez Hemet, CA Posts: 1538 | From: Hemet,CA U.S.A. | Registered: Jun 2001
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I run an engraving & sign shop. Half of our buisness is engraving plaques & awards. It would be quite possible to sublimate full color images onto a nice plaque, or do a two color/no half tone image engraved in black brass revealing gold brass line art. I could help supply some labor or supplies...but how many are we talking? Hmmm.Im going to post that question- how many members are there? How many per day etc...sorry, off topic.
-------------------- Phil Steffen, 29 Van Rensselaer St City of Saratoga Springs DPW Saratoga Springs NY 12866 Posts: 563 | From: beautiful Saratoga Springs NY | Registered: Aug 2001
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Hi Rick... I painted it right on my sign and vinyled it on my truck... Member, International Letterheads I O A F S Love- JILL
-------------------- That is like a Mr. Potato Head with all the pieces in the wrong place. -Russ McMullin Posts: 8834 | From: Butler, PA, USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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Not a bad idea, I've often thought of a sticker or nice plaque to put on the front of a Restaurant where Letterheads have been and eaten during a meet..."Letterhead Friendly Restaurant" or "rated top 10 sign painter grub joint" er sumptin like that... "Food for thought".......where's that Bagel................
-------------------- Mike Meyer Sign Painter 189 1st Ave n P.O. Box 3 Mazeppa, Mn 55956
We are not selling, we are staying here in Mazeppa....we cannot re-create what we have here....not in another lifetime! SO Here we are!!!!!!!
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hmm a good theme idea for the next panel swap
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Doesnt that isgnify that we are an organized sort of group? I thought we hashed this out at least a few times in the past 6 months and it was voted to be left as a less than organized group of people somewhats more like a meet than an organization. I think making up some sort of logo or insignia might ber a neat idea, but we must try to do so in a fashion as to not try and blow wind up our cyber skirts, trying to make us sound like some pompous organization like most others. IUf its an affiliate type of sticker your looking for Maybe join something like USSC if you think that will help boost your sales. Honestly I dont think the average sign buying public gives a rats patoot about whether your part of any association or group.
I apologize if I sound like I'm trying to rain on your parade. Its just that it seems like we have been down this road numerous times in the past 6 months if not 6 years.
Of course then there is our forefather and mother Steve and Barb. Perhaps maybe we should let them be a huge part of this decision considering its their blood sweat and tears that keep us here in this wonderful forum. Maybe somebody should ask them thier opinion and for permission. Instead of putting the cart in front of the horse and throwing it out to everyone else to make the decision for them.
Dont get me wrong Rick, I'm not saying its a bad idea or trying to step on your feet. Its just disheartening to see the same subject hashed over and over again being disguised in a different way each time.
-------------------- Harris Kohen K-Man Pinstriping and Graphix Trenton, NJ "Showing the world that even I can strategically place the pigment where its got to go." Posts: 1739 | From: Trenton, NJ, USA | Registered: Jun 2001
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Harris is correct in big way but never the less, there have been signs painted with the other non- associated group called the PINHEADS, we even had pins.
I think a plaque or sign or anything associated tith the Letterheads is certainly a great way for Lettervillians to express themselves anyway they choose.
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
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Lets get Mr. Draper's input on this (just kidding, Dave!). Rather than making your own, which anyone with a computer & cutter can do, I feel it can only be earned. It should be presented from your peers for doing what a letterhead is truly known for - sharing information in a positive way.
Havin' fun,
Checkers
-------------------- a.k.a. Brian Born www.CheckersCustom.com Harrisburg, Pa Work Smart, Play Hard Posts: 3775 | From: Harrisburg, Pa. U.S.A. | Registered: Nov 1998
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Once again, Brian is the man....I like that idea, but I understand the not uniting of letterheads, but I still maintain the fact I would love to br associated with this group, and boast it's world wide following.
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Just curious. What ever happened to the following quote, by who I do not know?
"What Is A Letterhead?
A Letterhead is a person related in some way to the creation of signs. Whether they are artist, supplier, spouse, or parent, they wholeheartedly support the exchange of information, the growth of the craft, and the re-discovery of the art of sign-making. Ideally, a Letterhead would take time from his own workday to help his competition and together they would strive for perfection.
A meeting of Letterheads is a time to share ideas and solutions in an effort to make everyone a little better at his craft. The Letterheads is not a formal organization. There are no dues, no officers, no bylaws. It is simply an association of individuals interested in common improvement. Everyone is welcome, no one is excluded, and everyone contributes what information and experience they can.
We all believe in helping others whenever possible. Proclaim yourself a Letterhead and join us in working for the improvement of the craft of sign-making. And, if you want a membership plaque for your office ... MAKE IT!"
Is this so old and out-dated that it is no longer appropriate? What I think the last sentence means is that you're free to make whatever kind of plaque or sign for your office you want. Most exchanged panels become that anyway. If you need something real fancy, make a glue-chipped, gold-leafed glass project, frame it and put it on your wall. The idea of having annual stickers cheapens the whole idea, I think. (did I just agree with CJ?) Are you saying you think some years you might not be a Letterhead; just because there aint no sticker on the plaque with annual expiration date? I think, if you think you need a plaque with yearly stickers to prove you're a Letterhead, then you've missed the point.
-------------------- Bill Cosharek Bill Cosharek Signs N.Huntingdon,Pa
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Bill.......... I believe your last sentence says it all.......!!
When people exchange panels of the quality of some of those around here..........That's about the best thing you can hang on your wall, because that panel was given to you from one of your peers........and Copy Plus or any of that type of shop just ain't a gonna have one of em.....
That's your badge of distintion, and ya can't get anything better than that...!!
............cj
-------------------- CJ Allan CJs Engraving 982 English Dr. Hazel, KY 42049
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when I sent my $50 to the Rick Glawson fund at the sign museum, I got a little tin-foil campaign style lapel pin that said "I LoveSigns" except with a heart for "love"
The pin is very cheap, but the thought was appreciated. I'll probably never wear mine or display it, & I'm sure many would throw them away. It certainly doesn't cheapen my contribution to Rick's fund any more then a letterheads sticker would cheapen a membership here.
I've seen dozens of well intentioned ideas that couldn't sway the autonomous individuality of this anarchy we call letterville... & then you get an idea like Terry's first letterville panel swap. So let the ideas come, & though the majority will slide out of sight & out of mind in short order, we won't alienate the author of the next great idea that really turns the heads of enough... 'heads to take on a life of its own.
Besides, long ago at least someone probably once said "A letterhead website?... don't you get it... it's NOT an organized thing man..."
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When it comes to formally organizing the Letterhead Movement, I'm with Bill and others who say no.
There are still a few out there who don't realize Letterville and Letterheads are two different animals. Letterville is a privately owned website. It's our online version of a live Letterhead/Pinhead meet. A fictional town in cyberspace occupied by those who choose to call themselves Letterheads and/or Pinheads.
We really should have something to send to our Residents, but so far the cost of purchasing something worth giving, plus shipping, just eats up too much of the Resident cost. Keep in mind that you do not have to be a Resident to enjoy Letterville. We only have 300 Residents.
Let me be the first to admit we are not the sharpest promoters on the block. I'm pleased to announce that I have finally tweaked the Letterville logo to the point of being happy. After literally years of waiting by his computer, David Butler finally has the long awaited artwork. This means t-shirts, aprons and other Letterville stuff may soon be available.
I'm amazed that nobody has come up with their own idea for a Letterville t-shirt. With all the crazy stuff that happens on this BB, not to mention chat, you would think all sorts of stuff would be available.
You know what Rick. Most of our problems could be solved with just a little more income. We've decided to stop whining and do our part to ensure this capitalist system we all cherish survives. In the coming weeks, you're going to see a more agressive approach to selling the benefits of Letterville to potential Residents and Merchants. We're sick and tired of always being sick and tired about being broke. How about the rest of you?
[ December 12, 2003, 06:48 AM: Message edited by: Steve Shortreed ]
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
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Read yours, Steve. Very informative and, yes, I'm learning more and more about Letterhead and, on my behalf, to be more careful as to the hows, when, and whys about using this site and BB(King).
Man, you sure write well! Do you have a special Letterhead spell checker on your end? I haven't gone so far, yet, (Busy lad that I am) to discover if, in fact, there is a preview spell checker, etc. Probably, right?
On the subject of Letterhead merchandise, well, I'd love to render some T-shirts, etc., designs, but am afraid (until I'm fully acquanited with soul of the "meet") that no one would like them. Doesn't hurt to try, though. And, yes, you're right: there's a myriad of talent here, I mean, at Letterhead.
Whilst I'm at it, let me wish all (and you know who you are) a pleasant and contented holiday season. Now this might seem slightly premature, but I'm on leave--call it hiastus or sabatical, for the foreseeable, short term; so I wanted to get my Christams blessings out to all. When I return, I should have some sweets for all (that is, eye candy) to tantalise the mind buds, and raise the brow and spirit. That other stuff-- the controversial, is off the to furnace and I hope to emerge a warmer, friendlier pin head with not so much of a sharp point to stake.
Until then, Merry (as in, well, you know) Christmas to all and to all a good write. (I'll be peaking in from time to time, so you'd better not pout and better not cry... if you want Santa to planta that special thang under your tree this year... whatever that means... I know I'm on good behavior).
Kind regards,
Fran
PS I gave Steve this link earlier, but now thought that "some" of you might enjoy an entertaining read.'taint for everyone, but a few might enjoy it. OK, here goes:
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How about having some sort of logo from letterville or letterheads that all members can download in AI or EPS format and cut and apply to you sign, vehicle, dog, etc. this way no one here is out cost of anything. Matbe have a contest for a vectorized logo. Just a thought!
-------------------- Rob Larkham Sign Techniques Inc. Chicopee, Ma Posts: 607 | From: Chester, Ma. | Registered: Apr 2002
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I think i'll make me up a panel , with cut vinyl airbrushing, hang a bunch of mardi gras beads onit, put a couple of pictures on it, clear coat it with several different kinds of clear, add on a couple of gold leaf, then finally do a antique finish . Ill use some script lettering that says "Official Letterhead"
There, i'll have a plaque that will give me some much needed talent, design me some wonderful art works, and make me lots of money just by being displayed on da wall.. All while i'm at da mardi gras parades gettin drunk and eating gumbo..
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I sure learned alot by posting this idea. I like Bob Larkham's idea that residents can download a file and make their own sign. That way we can decide how extravacant we want to be in promoting our residency. While it does not "organize" our movement, it does lend credability to the average sign girl/guy. And it lets our clients know that they aren't dealing with some local joe schmoe,their sign guy is educated, informed, and forward moving.
What do ya say Steve....send it over, I am prepared to give the logo the dignity it deserves on my showroom wall of fame.
Regards,
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""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers Posts: 3484 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003
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I don't normally get involved with these types of threads, but just a thought here:
Over the years I've tried to give a difinition to "Letterheads" and have never fully been satisfied with anything I've written down. And in that is the answer to the problem, I think. It can't be written down. Or painted. Or put into a plaque.
The integrity within is displayed in the work we produce and how we treat our clients. Hopefully, my "badge" of being a Letterhead is displayed all over town, but there is not a word on anything that says "Letterhead". It is in the quality of my work and my portfolio.
All around me are gifts I have received from other sign artists. They speak louder than any plague or certificate. Mainly because they were created by my peers.
As far as having something to announce to the public that I am a part of Letterheads, I don't really think that most folks would be all that impressed. There are all types of professional organizations and within their ranks are saints and jerks.
After over 40 years of doing this I hope that my collection of attempts at signs speak for me.
I take great pride in being part of a movement that stresses craftsmanship and quality, but want no part in the process of deciding who is and who isn't a qualified member. No two of us think alike. My idea of quality may be someone else's junk. We all set our own goals.
For years the statement has been made, "if you want something to hang on your wall that proclaims you a member of the Letterheads, just get busy and make one." Not a bad idea.
I'm extremely thankful that almost thirty years ago some young guys started to meet in Rick Flores' garage to share ideas and encourage each other. That is still the goal of the Letterheads, in my opinion. The founding adage of "leave your ego at the door" is still in effect, as well as the acronym IOAFS.
Let's not take ourselves too seriously. After all, we are just folks who are doing what we love. In the process, hopefully, we produce works or art...at least to us they are works of art. A hundred years from now my name and what I did while here will have been long forgotten. There are some more important things than signs. In fact, they are not "things" at all.
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-------------------- Chapman Sign Studio Temple, Texas chapmanstudio@sbcglobal.net Posts: 6306 | From: Temple, Texas, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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i like the idea of a cuttable ai./eps that ALL WHO WANT TO....can display the fact they are a LETTERHEAD. sorta like being a TREKY.....you wear a com badge, only other trekies will regognize what it is. same with a letterhead logo.
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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I respectfully agree with your words. I have been at this since 1979, the year I graduated. You make some legit points. However I think that many would like to display this proudly in their showroom. True, it will not mean much to the average client. But, I think it would be a constant reminder to me and my people of the standards we strive to uphold every day.
""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers Posts: 3484 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003
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I think I'd have a hard time with the idea, personally.
When I initially found this site, I'd given the idea of a "Letterhead" logo on my truck some consideration. Then it occured to me...there isn't one.
I think Ray's post is awesome. We all have different definitions of what a "Letterhead" is, and in respect, many here will have the same differences when trying to decide on a logo.
Who should design it? Who should APPROVE IT? Who gets one?
If Steve and Barb ever make a "Letterville.com" sticker available, cool. I'll be more than happy to display it on my truck as a show of support for the site.
But...should the "Letterhead" movement get a design that was generally accepted as a "logo", I'm not sure I wanna be around when the copyright battle begins.
My 2 bits... Rapid
-------------------- Ray Rheaume Rapidfire Design 543 Brushwood Road North Haverhill, NH 03774 rapidfiredesign@hotmail.com 603-787-6803
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