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BrianTheBrush
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OK,

we do MAYBE one lighted box every three or four years. I just don't get calls for lighted signs. But, today, I had to go look at a building that an existing client of mine is moving into...and out front, is a two-sided lighted box, suspended between two posts, landscaped, etc.

The faces left with the old tennant last week it seems, and I don't know if they were flat faces or panned. So my question, for those of you who do this type of work is:

A two-sided, 72" wide, 24" high x 10" deep box, with two 6' tubes in the center. Do I need to consider panned faces for this application, or should I be able to use flat faces (which I can get locally, faster). It's not a money issue, rather a time, and an "I-just-don't-like-screwing-around-with-this-kinda-stuff" issue. I've had a couple of other area shops offer conflicting opinions.

The faces will be whatever type of white is recommended, with translucent red and black graphics, if that makes a difference.

So I wait, with baited breath, for some feedback.

THanks in advance for the help.

Keep on keepin' on,

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Arvil Shep' Shepherd
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Use flat 3/16"white translucent Plexi..and you should be ok with 10" box..however a pan face would eliminate any chance of seeing the lamps.
Shep

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Doug Allan
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I don't see why flat wouldn't work just fine. I do about the same amount of light boxes as you mention, but I have done flat faced cabinets 30" tall with just two tubes in them. Does the retaining frame have proper tracks for sliding in your acrylic face?

If it was any reassurance for you if you could find out what the previous tenant took with them, did you attempt to track them down to bother them with a quick question?

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Like Shep said, only I would add an alternative price for lexan, so the customer realizes that regular acrylic can be broken. That way there are no surprizes down the road as far as the customer understanding what he is buying. But the flat face will be alright lighting-wise, with a 10" cabinet. Don't go cheap and get anything less than 3/16" if using the acrylic though. That's all I can think of, Brian........

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As Shep said.

But the darker the facia the poorer the lighting.

And if your going to Pan the face you now have twice the depth and I would go with a Neon inlay for brightness or Re-ballast it for 3 lamps with Bright White lamps.

[ November 06, 2003, 06:39 PM: Message edited by: Stephen Deveau ]

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Brian, If the colors are black and red, I just use HP vinyl, it seems to work just fine. Remember that lexan is a bit thinner but much stronger. I price the plex sign first then add the total cost of the lexan as an upgrade, they usually willing to pay the extra. Try to have your supplier cut it to size and pay the extra fee! These are very quick an easy money.

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Flat panels white 3/16 plexi. The two lamps are industry standard (1 lamp per foot) and put in 2 new daylight lamps.

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but what do I know anyway...I've only been doing this for 20 years!

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Brian
I think 10" will eliminate the need for a pan face
Id use lexan..
Garston will sell ya a full sheet
I buy from Commercial Plastics...
195 LaGrange Ave
Roch.....254-5800
800-724-4364
They will cut you a piece of what ever material
you decide to use
they have all kinda neat stuff and good advice
The guy from Ward's works there now...

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BrianTheBrush
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Thank you all...

I just wasn't sure if a 10" box was deep enough for flat faces.

I always use polycarbonate, versus acrylic, just for MY piece of mind.

Mike, I use Commercial Plastics all the time. Unfortunately, Gary has gone, but I still get lotsa great service from them. (although, they aren't "Commercial" anymore, they're "GE Polymer and Shapes"...) And yes, I followed the fabricators there from Ward's when they closed down whenever that was..hadda be 10 years now.

Again, I thank you all for your expertise.

Keep on keepin on.

Brian

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