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James Donahue
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I have some leftover books of 23k gold leaf, I get the names mixed up, what I have is the kind that's got a piece of paper with each sheet of gold (patent?).

My question is: can I use this type for the inside of glass, or only the other kind? (loose leaf?).

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James Donahue
Donahue Sign Arts
1851 E. Union Valley Rd.
Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net

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Danny Bussell
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LOOSE for Glass Paten for Surface Done OK [Cool]

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Danny Bussell
Tujunga, California


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Richard Bustamante
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You can use either type on glass. The type you
have is called Patent leaf, and the other type is
Loose leaf.

It is the application that is different. The two
types are a "matte" finish, and a "mirror" finish.
To get the matte finish you use a varnish type
size, letter it, let it tack`up, and gently
"press" the gold onto the sized portion of your
graphic. The other way you apply it to glass is
called "mirror" or "water" gilding. This is
acheived by creating a water size using pure
gelaten and water, which is "floated" over the
glass, and the loose leaf is applied to the wet
glass. The gelaten dries verturally transparent,
and leaves the gold in a mirror state.

That is just the basic explanation, and much
research and learning is needed to master these
techniques. Read all you can. A good place to
start is Kent Smith's gold leaf book. Get your
supplies at Letterhead Sign Supply. Ron Percell
will put you on the right track, as far as,
supplies are concerned, and very knowledgable as
well.

Heres a pic of mirror gilding on glass, and glue
chipped glass.

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I hope I have helped you in your quest.

-Rich

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Richard Bustamante
Signs in the Pines
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Kent Smith
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It is possible however, to water gild on glass with either patent or roll gold. Not only done in a pinch but also when the desired effect is appropriate. The patent tends to hold the pattern of the paper and is somewhat subject to pin holes because of that. It therefore appears to have a pebble-like tixture but not really a matte finish. It is not possible to get a brilliant gild with patent.

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Estes Park, CO 80517-2385
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