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What is frisket used for specifically? Can it be used for a paint mask ? Can it be cut on a plotter? Can you leave it on til the next day for two coats? Thanks
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Frisket is the counterpart of Misket, both are blocking agents for airbrushing. One is liquid, the other is a lightweight paper with light adhesive on one side. You can trace on it, illustrate on it and then cut it with an exacto for airbrushing. No, you can't use it twice. No, it won't plotter cut easily.
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Forgot to add that you can leave it on as long as you like, but keep in mind that the paint edge that overlaps onto the Frisket may fracture or pull away if your paint is too heavy.
[ October 02, 2003, 02:06 PM: Message edited by: pierre ]
-------------------- Pierre St.Marie Stmariegraphics Kalispell,Mt www.stmariegraphics.com ------------------ Plan on knowing everything before I die and time's running out! Posts: 4223 | From: Kalispell,Mt 59903 | Registered: Mar 2000
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Hey Wayne Isn't it what the cops do when they pull you over late on Saturday night on your way home from the tavern? Isn't it that red crap we used to have to cut by hand w/an Xacto in art school? Rubylith? Man, did that suck...one of the reasons I quit back in '81. I think I've run it thru my plotter before when doing something for my silk-screening friend, too. Somebody makes it 15" perforated...dunno who. Love- JILL
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The only thing different about frisket and the tranfer paper you use on vinyl letters is ,frisket has a backing sheet.
I use the tranfer paper for all my masking.
Yes you can come back two days later because the paint never really cures on the paper...but I would recommend doing it in one application within 24 hours for best results.
There are those that would disagree with this but it works...make sure you have the mask down tight with a squeegee before you start painting...works best on high gloss materials but there are tricks to using it on latex.
Plotter not a good plan...hand cut it!
Call me if you ned help !
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[ October 02, 2003, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: Monte Jumper ]
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Ok, here's my problem........ I have a 48' semi trailer sitting in my shop yard. I want to paint a bunch of relatively small(5'') letters in Oneshot and I want to use some kind of paint mask. But....it's dark blue Oneshot on a white trailer and I'm afraid that the Oneshot ain't gonna cover in "one shot". So unless there's some other way to do it, I need a paint mask that can stay on long enough to paint the second coat without leaving any gooey stuff behind. All these maunufacturers keep telling me their stuff won't do it. Any ideas?
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I would expect OS dark blue to cover white in one coat. However, if you want to mask it, I would cut the transfer tape on the truck, peel letters & paint.Monte's right again. Hey Monte, it's amazing how many times I find myself thinking exactly the same as you in some of these posts. We musta been in the same school (of hard knocks)!
-------------------- Jeff Ogden 8727 NE 68 Terr. Gainesville FL, 32609 Posts: 2138 | From: 8827 NE 68 Terr Gainesville Fl 32609 | Registered: Aug 2002
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We use Oracal's paint mask all the time. Never had any problems. Made to cut in the plotter. Just like regular vinyl, just a heckuva lot easier to remove. I think Avery has their version, too.
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I have nothing against vinyl masks...I'd just rather hand cut the paper mask.
You'll not have any trouble getting coverage out of One Shot (roll it on) with a foam roller (always do your final roll from top to bottom and the paint will not sag, If you go bottom to top your trying to make it hang and it will sag everytime)...Two things you need to do however...
1- After the mask is applied and cut (or if you use a vinyl mask) use a scotch pad and scuff the letters (it wont hurt the mask if you work from the edges into the letters.
2- Use Dupont Midcoat Adhesion Promoter...If you don't have spray equip. put it in a spray bottle and spray it over the entire surface to be painted.
Let it set for about 15 or 20 minutes then paint...If you're using One Shot, the hardner will add grip.
I like to remove the mask while wet but you can leave it on overnite and there is a bonus for leaving it on (any paint that leaks under will stay wet and is easily removed in the morning with a damp mineral spirits rag).
"Werks fer me it'll werk fer you"
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I'm pretty sure Tim's right...and you sprinkle smalts on it and eat it like cotton candy. hk
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I usually wait about a 1/2 hour before pulling the mask off so the paint is still tacky, but not dry. Sometimes, even if the scuffing is done well, there is always a little bit along the edges that never really get scuffed and can cause some paint to pull up with the mask. Even more so when masking with crepe tapes since they are thicker and getting the scuff into the corners is tougher to do.
I'd stick to spraying the lettering if you can. You're probably gonna have rivets to deal with and I find spraying easier. Less chance of runs below the rivets and along panel seams.
...and it'll "look just like stickers", too! hmmmm....where have I heard THAT before? Rapid
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