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Todd Gill
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I love the idea of a slim, lightweight, monitor that isn't bombarding my cranium and eyes with radiation 10-12 hours a day.....

And am thinking about a 20-23 inch LCD for design.

My hitch is: I'm not sure that vector manipulation is/would be as crisp on the LCD as it is on a CRT. I've seen some LCD'S that, to me, appear to have a little less detail in vector shapes....although the Text seems very crisp.

I currently am using a Sony 21" G500....which has been an awesome monitor...but like I said. The time I spend in front of it could be slowly changing my skin color to green.

Also curious how color and color management capabilities compare?

If I do it, I'd be moving my current monitor over to another computer who's monitor is starting to burn out...so I don't view this as a frivolous expenditure.

Who's got LCD's and how have they been for you?

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Mark Yearwood
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I recently bought an 18" LCD and love it. Much easier on the eyes. That constant refresh rate on CRT's will ruin your eyes over time.

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Mark Yearwood
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Hiya Todd,
If you're color critical, stick with CRT.
LCD may be easier on the eyes, but they lack the ability to be color managed well. They can't be fine tuned like a CRT.

Havin fun,

Checkers

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Steve Eisenreich
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I am also now looking into buying a pair of LCD monitors I think I have what I want 2 19" Samsung Syncmaster 191T with 2 monitors I should have more than enough room also the bezel on this monitor is very thin so I can put them side by side and it should look good and not be to distracting. I understand their are monitor stands that will hold both monitor screens side by side and let you rotate them all on one stand.
Also the price point is more attractive than monitors that are larger a 20" monitor seams to cost as much as these 2 monitors.

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I'll stick with CRT. I have one LCD and could never be happy designing with it. I find the colors to view completely different and they change if your angle of viewing changes.

Some reason the CRT's are just sharper, crisper, and have a greater depth of color.

As far as eye damage goes, I was talking to an optomitrist buddy of mine and he said that todays CRT's do no damage to your eyes as a result of radiation exposure. The thing that bothers most of us is eye strain from staring at details for 14 hours a day.

When I was young I didnt even notice any trouble with my eyes but not that I'm so old everything bothers me.

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Steve Smith
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I have 2 of those samsung 191t. Really like them, especially like the way you can turn the screens to a vert position. Pretty good color. The only thing I dislike is the max res. of 1280x1024 (I really like the 1600x1200 of my 21" crt)
I think you can get them from newegg for around $640.00 a piece.


Good Luck!

Steve

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The refresh rate of CRT's is what gives you headaches because your body is sensitive to the frequency, and eye strain is simply because your eyes have to refocus constantly.

Since I went with LCD (on my laptop) the eye rubbing every few hours has been eliminated because everything, text and graphics, are sharper and clearer so the eyes are not trying to bring fuzzy shapes into focus.

I can no longer stand to look at CRT's, not even models with .22 or .24 dot pitch.

LCD's *will* show every minor detail though, including the pixel edges, while CRT's kinda blur/soften edges because they are not as sharp, thus producing a smoother (less accurate) image.

LCD technology is always changing and viewing angles are no longer an issue. Nobody does design work across the room from their computer, you're always right in front of the screen but now any slight viewing angle problems of the past are just that - in the past.

Color calibration can be done with the newer optical calibrators. They adjust the electron guns of CRT's, but can also tell software where to set the color of the LCD.

I will never go back to a CRT!

By the way, if you want an LCD for graphics, I suggest looking for a model that's developed for graphics professionals, not an office supply chain store model.. [Smile] You'll get better color, higher resolution, etc etc. I run the LCD in my laptop at 1600x1200 resolution.. it sure is nice!

http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10074

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Mark Yearwood
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Thanks for explaining about the refresh rate, Mike.
I had to go LCD as my eyes are very sensitive and unless I turn the refresh rate up really high, I can pick up the actual lines on the screen.
An eye expert told me that the eye is micro-adjusting constantly to try and focus on those lines as the monitor rolls, thus causing eye strain over long periods.

This was really having an effect on my vision over the last couple of years.

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Mark Yearwood
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Mike O'Neill
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Mike,

I had headaches with crt's long before the refresh rate increased. I think the headaches have more to do with the electon gun pointed straight at your eyes filtered only by the phosphorus coating on the inside of a very thin glass screen than anything else. Peoples of a future generation will probably look back on our generation and wonder if we were crazy to use such dangerous tools.
Having said that I have 1 17" lcd monitor in the shop, but I don't think lcd's are refined enough or accurate enough at this point in time to replace hi end crt's in our field.


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I went with a high end LCD Viewsonic 19" a year ago. I wouldn't go back to the CRT even though I had a high end 19" which was pretty good.

THe image & colors are first rate in my opinion.

-dan

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