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Amy Brown
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My supplier didn't have 1-shot in Ivory so I bought Ronan Bulletin Color. Well it's really yellow, not the beige-ish color I was needing.

So, can I mix some of the 1-shot enamels that I have with it to get the correct color? If so, what should I add? I was thinking a little white and brown?? That sound right?

Thanks in advance.

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Dave Parr
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Amy,
Yes, ...of course. Your plan is sound. Go slowly & only a slight bit of the brown may be necessary.

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Curt Stenz
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Amy, I always mix my own ivory; white and small amounts of imitation gold.

Curt Stenz

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Been doin it for years...no one has caught me yet!

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Classic Ivroy:

Lettering white 98%
Chrome Yellow (134-L) 2%

Start off with the white, and add the yellow
drip by drip, till you come to the right hue.

Good Luck.
Rich

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Try experimenting.

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funny, I passed up this post because I never used Ronan... but I needed ivory & considered buying a can of 1-shot, because to coat my first 32 sq. of HDU, I wasn't at all sure how much I would need. I couldn't get it locally either, so I mixed a batch just the other day.

I'm sure both the above recipes will look like an ivory, but to match the ivory in 1-shots color chart.. I can honestly say I think I hit my mark as close as I ever have with the following:

1-shot chrome yellow in 1-shot white (I'd say 2% sounds about right, but maybe 3 or 4)
then I needed another 1% 1-shot black, & finally warmed it up to just about dissappear onto my 1-shot swatch with 1% or 2% fire red.

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just had to show off...
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(the drop on left was before adding the red)

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Well, ...not starting with the Ronan ivory as the base color opens up many other options. As Richard hinted at, it depends on the hue you’re after. Looks like Monte’s been there, as most of us faders have. Doug’s color chips demonstrate what Mr. Picket was saying, a little experimenting is a good thing.

I enjoyed watching Steve Estes do his finger paint trial & error testing at the Atlanta, Il. meet. Just dip the tip of yer finger into the base color and smear it on a can lid. Dip into the next color and add it to the smear. Watch what happens to the color as it changes, helps you understand what is need in the mix. Keep going till you’ve got it. You can back up and add a little of any of the colors if you’ve gone too far. When you hit the desired color, you know two things, one, that your color is attainable from what you have to work with, and two, you have an excellent idea of how much of each ingredient to use to reach the desired color in the quantity you need. Once you’ve been down the block a few times, you’ll be able to look into a color and see what is needed.

Curt has a workable plan. The main thing is test to see what you're going to get before mixing. If you don't you'll end up with many quarts of color that you will shudder at the thought of ever using. I’ve also always used One Shot white as the base for ivory. A few drops of chrome yellow, and a dash of orange has always been my favorite. Tastes a bit bitter without the orange. [Smile]

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Thanks everyone. I ended up adding a little 1-shot medium brown and a lot of Ronan Bulletin white into the Ronan Bulletin Ivory and got a much closer match to what I needed which was actually a littlw more like beige than ivory.

If you ever need ivory, the Ronan is not what I would call ivory. It is VERY yellow. Pretty, but not ivory!!

What type of tool/utensil/cup/etc. do you guys use to measure. For example when you say 3 parts of this and 4 parts of this with 2 parts of that how do you measure it. I can get the colors I want but if I ever have to match them again I'll be in a mess!! I'm trying with this paint stuff but don't have anyone around here to learn from.

Thanks again!

[ September 14, 2003, 09:26 PM: Message edited by: Amy Brown ]

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I like what dave said...
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When you hit the desired color, you know two things, one, that your color is attainable from what you have to work with, and two...
I think # 1 is the important thing. "It can be done" I never really measure, because after I get a dab on a small card to match It usually takes me many many times of adding each color repeatedly to make up a bigger batch... no way of measuring that, but I always bill for 1 hour to match a color, because it takes at least that long.

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