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I've got an employee who, to the best of my knowledge, has never made it to work on time. I've tried everything I can think of to get him on the right track, to no avail. He says that he can't get to sleep before 1-2 in the morning. He's only 19 and a friend of the family (I know, I know). His mom says it's a girlfriend thing.
The problem is, he does the work of 2 guys! He's never been more than 15 min. late, but I'm the type of guy who expects to see people pulling in at least 15 min. early. Although it drives me nuts, I like the kid and his enthusiasm on the job.
Anyone dealt with this type of situation? I'm not worried about the friend of the family thing, his parents know that I need someone there on time and ready to work.
Oh yeah...he only works Wed., Thurs. and Fri.
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-------------------- Terry Baird Baird Signs 3484 West Lake Rd. Canandaigua, NY 14424 Posts: 790 | From: Canandaigua, New York | Registered: Dec 2002
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Fire him. Thats the right thing to do. He will never learn otherwise how lucky he is to have a good job when so many are out of work.
All you're doing is enabling him to be a slacker in life.
After you fire him he will plead and beg for his job back. Tell him you'll think it over but it will never happen again. No excuses. Be to work ontime or else...
-------------------- Bob Stephens Skywatch Signs Zephyrhills, FL
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Your employee reminds me of someone I once knew. I'm not sure if your shop hours are flexible, or if your employee helps out on tasks he can do un-attended. Also don't know if you have the option to spread the same part-time hours over 4 days.
If this was your son, or an apprentice that wanted to grow into your lead guy some day, then I think priorities & sacrifices should be ingrained early, but if this is just a chapter in a young mans life who wants to fit this job into his life without too much sacrifice, but you get good bang-for-the-buck when he's there, maybe you can bend a little & possible reap more rewards yourself as a result.
My first sign job was in NYC. I was there on a lark while vacationing from Hawaii, I hitched into town expecting to stay a week or 2. Once I got hired I loved the city & the job so much I just kept extending my stay, but as I told my employer I was there to see the city & the job was just to support that.
I am a musician & NYC is the city that never sleeps. Everyone else was starting around 8 or 9, but I frequently came in after 10. I discussed this with my employer, and he felt he was getting a good return on his investment, so he not only agreed to allow me to start anywhere between 10 & 11, but also gave me a key to the shop so I could finish up projects in the evening.
This was a major architectural sign firm with a few dozen employees, but by extending that trust to me, I cosistently put in over 50 hours, & saw incremental raises totaling about $5/hr. higher then my starting pay, & while I had the freedom to get all the cultural enjoyment out of my NYC experience, I also got the foundations of a brand new career still bringing me happiness & financial security 14 years later.
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If he does the work of two people, keep the young whipper snapper. If he's only 15 mins. late, and works the perscribed ammount of (8?) hours, what's the prob?
You could dump him to "teach him a lesson" (about not being punctual), but so what? Then, you'd have to hire TWO flunkies to replace his sorry ass.
He's 19! What do you expect? Use his youthfull strength, energy and stupidity for YOUR own good. He sounds like just the guy for digging postholes, and lugging heavy objects around!
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I have an employee that is supposed to come in at 7am but always comes in around 7:15. I pay him for 7-4 time. He has been with me for 8 years. He is very particular how he does all his work, is never a slacker on the job, totally trustworthy and I don't hesitate for a moment to leave him alone in the shop and he has never complained once about anything during the 8 years. I've had more than one who were always on time but while they were on the job they weren't "worth killing." So if that's the only complaint you have against your employee, I wouldn't sweat it. You could do a heck of alot worse. Leave the guy alone and be thankful you have such a good employee.
-------------------- Frisby Signs, Inc. El Dorado, Arkansas Posts: 902 | From: El Dorado, Arkansas, USA | Registered: Apr 1999
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tell him if he can't get there on time get there when he can.
-------------------- Jimmy Chatham Chatham Signs 468 stark st Commerce, Ga 30529 Posts: 1766 | From: Commerce, GA, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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i got the same problem with ME!!! ive always been 15-20 min late for everyting....and iam gona be late for my funeral.......i had a job in sarasota workin at a parts store. i had just came to fla and had a 23' motor home which i parked on the parts place property. work started at 8 a.m. and all i had to do was get up, get dressed walk 20 yards to the door. STILL COULDNT BE ON TIME!!!!! but i worked their for 5 years!!!!! and when i left .....he went thru 10-15 people to replace me. when i became a a full time sign person in 86....and it got slow and i needed a few bucks.....i worked at that parts store....part time.....even now when i need to meet a client....i dont do mornings, and will never lock myself into a 2 P.M. appointment. i will thell them i will be there 2- 2:30 no later!!!!!
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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yeah ... dont tell him but make his hours 7:30 to 4:30... that way he will be coming in early every morning.
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Tony Potter Blind Mice and Company 3001 Bever Ave. SE Cedar Rapids, IA 52403 (319) 573-9001 www.blindmiceandcompany.com tonypotter@yahoo.com Posts: 209 | From: Cedar Rapids, IA | Registered: Nov 1999
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All of Indocil Arts employees suck. Shipping manager cant get things out on time the guy that answers the phone is rude, the so called artist is always begging for clip art off the net, and the shop foreman I suspect is stealing from the company. If I dont shape up I am going to let my sorry a$$ go!!!!!!!!!!I dont need this crap from me!!!!!! I dont know who I think I am!!!!!!!
-------------------- Ryan Young Indocil Art & Design indocil@comporium.net 803-980-6765
I highjacked Letterville!! Winter Muster 2004 Posts: 904 | From: Rock Hill, SC | Registered: Sep 2001
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That's tough. I too always try to get to work 15 - 30 mins. early and have a hard time when people come in late for anything; appointments, etc. But, if he's as good as you day he is, I'd let him have the 15 mins as long as it doesn't turn into 20 or 30 mins.
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You crack me up Ryan... Thanks for all the responses, I think I'll cut him some slack (for now). The kid's never moaned about overtime and does what he's told. When I think about some of the dead weight I've kept around in the past, it doesn't make sense to start digging my own postholes over 15 min.
-------------------- Terry Baird Baird Signs 3484 West Lake Rd. Canandaigua, NY 14424 Posts: 790 | From: Canandaigua, New York | Registered: Dec 2002
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i say lighten up dude...of course i'm always late, i interupt(only cuz i'd forget if i don't blurt it out), i cuss, belch, and i'd steal godiva chocolate from a baby if given the chance...15 minutes is nothing in the big scheme of things...hell my girl is sometimes an hour late...but i'm very easy going when it comes to the time thing. you must way out the pros and cons...if he does the work of 2 people and he's good honest people...then hell send him my way!
-------------------- Karyn Bush Simply Not Ordinary, LLC Bartlett, NH 603-383-9955 www.snosigns.com info@snosigns.com Posts: 3516 | From: Bartlett, NH USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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I'm replying, before reading the replies already posted, cuz I'm probably late for something!
Gotta tell ya a true story;
For three years of my life, I worked a Saturday job, at the beach. There was distance and traffic to contend with. Still I never seemed to leave home in time to get to work ON Time. Like your employee, I was usually within 15 minutes late.
My boss, was a wonderful guy, he liked my work etc. Obviously, I loved my job.
One Saturday, he pulled me aside and gave me a look He said; "Cheryl, I enjoy working with you, but I am perplexed everytime you are late, which is most every Saturday. Therefore, I'm changing your hours for myself, as much as I am changing them for you. Please, whatever you do, do not change YOUR hours... Believe you are to be here at 8am every Saturday. But for the record books, I'm changing your hours to 8:30am... We'll get along much better from here on out, and you will keep your job, okay!"
Terry, after hearing this, I thought the world of this guy. He was willing to give a little, cuz he valued me as an employee. And, ya know what? After that talk, I was NEVER late again!!!
Just my personal experience. Maybe it'll work for you too...
Cher.
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Cheryl Lucas a/k/a "Shag" on mIRC Vital Signs & Graphics, Etc. Cape Coral, Florida 239-574-4713 VSignsNgraphics@aol.com Posts: 987 | From: Cape Coral, FL USA | Registered: Aug 2000
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Billy, ... yup! Ryan, ... I'm still laughing! Tony, ... you've got the right idea! Joey, ... that was my answer! Karyn,... you definately fit in my criteria of "good girlfriend". Glad I got to meetcha, 'cuz now I can put a voice to the spunk. Cheryl Lucas, ... that was a great story! okay, pass the kleenex again.
I've been enjoying this thread.
Nettie
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Unless it's putting you in a pinch, say like you have a 9am appointment off site and you need him there to keep an eye on things, I dont see what the big deal is.
I used to be regularly late for my job at the engineering firm, not intentionally.. it just seemed no matter how early I left home I always ended up getting there late, and it's not like I had a life that was occupying my time. I had a talk with the boss man about it once, I actually brought it up.. he was OK with it because it gave him time to collect his thoughts and put together a package of work to be done.
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Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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I don't think firing the guy is going to do anyone any good.
My boss had a talk with me about respect. I did really respect him & when he put it to me that I was acting like I didn't, I felt really bad. Basically, we agreed that I'd tell him in advance what time I would be there & if for some reason I couldn't, I would call. That's what I do all the time.
Of course, lots of things have changed in my life & I generally am much better about being on time these days. I'm usually early now, without even really trying. It's wierd, cuz I used to ALWAYS be late.
-------------------- Glenn S. Harris
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If he does the work of two guys looks like things even out after a half hour, after that, looks like you owe him. Pay him on commision, do away with the time card that way both of you will be happy.
-------------------- George Perkins Millington,TN. goatwell@bigriver.net
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The 8-hour work day is a hold-over from the Industrial Revolution. Factories had to have workers there on time to keep the big machines going. Before that, people worked on farms (mostly) or were craftspeople working from their home. Cows and corn can wait fifteen minutes. (Dairy cows get cranky if you make them wait more than that.)
So move on into the post-Industrial age and be HAPPY that you have an employee who comes in every day and does good work. Use the fifteen minutes to organize YOURSELF and to bless the day.
Maybe HE is teaching YOU a lesson... a lesson in slowing down and enjoying life. If you ever find yourself saying "Gee, I wish I was 19 again." then you've still got something to learn from him.
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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If he punches a time clock, you are not paying him for the time he is not there, so he does not "owe" you time. I have learned not work at places where puctuality for no good reason is considered important. Employers who are pricks about starting at a precise time often are very vague about when quitting time is and think nothing of surprising an employee at the last minute with extra work.
At my job, I can show up & punch in anytime between 7 & 9 AM, and I leave (without needing permission) when my work is done. If I have to be there at a certain time for a meeting or something, that's fine. Otherwise, nobody cares as long as my work gets done! We run two shifts and I can even work nights if I feel like it. By my request, I am considered a PT employee and I average about 35-40 hrs a week and can take lunch/breaks whenever I want. I am the only painter, so nobody else picks up my slack. If I don't do it today, it will be there for me tomorrow! I love flexible hours!
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Oh to be 19 again, I was consistanly late at my job at that age, and my boss was very big on punctuality, he made it a point of telling me all the time that I need to be at work at 8, and I was chronically 15 minutes late. I worked like a dog for him and he let it slide because of it, but he let me know that if I wanted a raise I would have to be on-time. That worked on me, but he also knew at my age, that being if being a little late was my worst flaw, and I was still making him a lot of money, that he could deal with it. My current employer has no set time, as long as you put your time in and get the work done, then thats all that is required. I live 100 miles from my job, so sometimes it takes an hour and 45 minutes, sometimes it takes 3, but I make the guy a lot of money, he likes my work, and I put more than my time in every week. Give the kid a break, if you like his work, and he is making you money with no complaints, count yourself lucky, being a little late is nothing compared to finding another helper.
Rick
-------------------- Rick Chavez Hemet, CA Posts: 1540 | From: Hemet,CA U.S.A. | Registered: Jun 2001
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hey scooter living in S.F. how do you know so much about cows?
LOL!
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hey scooter living in S.F. how do you know so much about cows?
LOL!
-------------------- Aaron Haynes Aaron's Signs & Windows Napa Ca aa4signs@sbcglobal.net ------------ Important Rule For Life: "Look out for number one... Don't step in number two" ------------ If your never the lead dog on the sled...the scenery never changes. Posts: 241 | From: Napa Ca. USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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Definitely need to lighten up. Perhaps you need to ask yourself what those fifteen minutes mean to you. Your frustration doesn't seem based in reality. The reality is that he does the work of 2 guys, never complains about overtime, is enthusiastic. Sounds like a GREAT EMPLOYEE to me who just needs a little leeway. Being late gives my psyche breathing space. I hate following anal rules for no practical reason. I'm late for most things, except client meetings and flights to Fiji.
-------------------- Dawn Ellis Signs by Dawn Long Beach, CA signsbydawn@aol.com
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I agree that 15 minutes isn't a big issue in and of itself. The problem comes in when an employee doesn't "get it" that to run a business you HAVE to be something of a control freak, and you HAVE to be able to depend on the people who work for you. Sounds like you have that, for the most part.
I have gone through these issues in my shop with my current employee. In the first few months he would occasionally just not show up at all, which really wound my clock. But he was good, a hard worker and willing to learn, and I eventually got through to him that there are obligations and boundaries. The "crises" came one day when he was expected at 9am, I had a very busy day planned, and he left a message at 10am announcing he was taking the day off to go to the beach. I lost it, and left his tools at his door with a note telling him to take the rest of his life off!
He's no dummy - gave me a couple of weeks to calm down, then approached me and wanted to talk. I stopped him cold with "The first thing that needs to fall out of your mouth is 'I'M SORRY'..." After that we talked, and I took him back. We've had small time/expectation issues since then, but he has learned A LOT about the demands of running a business since then, and I have been able to count on him for an awful lot. We respect each other and give each other a lot of slack on things, and over four years it's been a very profitable relationship.
-------------------- "A wise man concerns himself with the truth, not with what people believe." - Aristotle
Cam Bortz Finest Kind Signs Pondside Iron works 256 S. Broad St. Pawcatuck, Ct. 06379 "Award winning Signs since 1988" Posts: 3051 | From: Pawcatuck,Connecticut USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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The word that keeps popping up here is RESPECT. That is the bottom line for me. I've had problems with co-workers showing up on time which means two things for me. The number one being that since I work in a 24 hour business, if I'm working until 11pm and the next guy doesn't show up until 11:40, it's almost midnight before I get out of there! The other thing is that if someone working my same shift doesn't show up but the previous shift leaves, then I'm there juggling two or even three jobs myself. It's not the type of place where I can just put off doing some stuff until more people show up - the phone doesn't stop ringing, the guests don't stop wanting stuff like extra pillows, etc and people continue to check in and out whether there are 3 people working the desk or only one.
I'm not sure that I could be a boss because I simply don't have the patience for people who can't be bothered to get someplace on time or like some people I work with, call in sick all the time. When I worked a regular 9-5, M-F kind of job (I used to be a printing broker), I had a rule for myself. If I was genuinely sick, then I would allow myself to call in sick. If I went out partying the night before and I felt like hell when I woke up in the morning, I went to work no matter how bad it was. If I brought it on myself, I got to suffer through it and go to work. It wasn't my boss's fault that I went out to play.
On the other side of the coin, if the guy shows up every day, even if it is a little late, and does productive work, then I would simply adjust my brain to figure that he would be there at 7:15 instead of 7:00. Like someone else said though - DON'T tell him that! There's no sense in driving yourself nuts expecting him to show up at 7:00 and being ****ed when he's not when deep down you KNOW that he's not going to be there then. There's enough stress in life and owning your own business without adding to it.
I am one of those people who obsessively punctual. I laugh that I will be 15 minutes early for my own funeral. My husband on the other hand always tries to squeeze in two more things before he leaves and is always late. It used to drive me NUTS because I was expecting him to operate by my rules. Now, if he says that he'll be home at 6:30, I'm happy if he comes home by 7. I KNOW that just because he says 6:30, that's not what it means. I've developed this instant translation in my brain.
I've noticed that here in California things tend to be more laid back and people less punctual than when I lived in the Northeast. I'm pleasantly surprised now if someone shows up on time.
-------------------- Kimberly Zanetti Purcell www.amethystProductivity.com Folsom, CA email: Kimberly@AmethystProductivity.com
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Seems people are more lax when they identify from the employees view. It appears we all want people to be less rigid with our own faults or those we identify with.
That being said, if 15 minutes was mostly the only problem and he wasn't one to be a clock watcher on the other end of the day, I would let it go. It would be different if that person was always reading me the rule book about lunch time and quitting time. Generally though, in a small business these things work themselves out.
Hey, if you need to scare someone into a more responsible lifestyle, show him OP's life and outlook. He might demand a timeclock to keep him straight.
-------------------- Wright Signs Wyandotte, Michigan Posts: 2787 | From: Wyandotte, MI USA | Registered: Jan 1999
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I'm sorry I just have trouble with most of the sh*t posted here. Maybe that's what's wrong with society today as a whole. Look it's simple - get your butt in bed on time, and out on time in the morning, and get to work on time! And if you don't like it... get lost.
Hey Glenn guess you don't want to apply here. We start at 6am and work to 5. And we don't work weekends.
-------------------- Dennis Veenema The Sign Shop Dresden, Ont. but what do I know anyway...I've only been doing this for 20 years! Posts: 368 | From: Dresden, Ont.,CAN | Registered: May 1999
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FIRE HIM NOW........dunno where/why everyone feels he deserves a "chance" when hes done nothing but take advantage of the situation since he was hired.....his "chance" and all this "lightening up" you're supposed to be doing has long come and even longer gone. Terry,we run a 100% retail operation and been down this road more times than i want to count...15min becomes 30,then 60,then hes gone 2hrs on a 15min run,then he misses a day here and there,then he wants a salary advance,then he's not 19 anymore but 24 and still doing the same crap,blaming someone else and pretty soon you're working your schedule around his,his head gets bigger than it ever should b/c he feels he's the essential wheel in the machine and the place can't function without him. You don't "need" him even if it is to dig your own post holes...from what he's admitted to you and what his family has told you he stays up till 2am with his gf...so in a sense you're paying him to drink and play grabass all nite with a 19yo girl....advertise the fact you're willing to do that in the paper just one sunday and you'll have people showing up that will work like dogs just for a shot at that fringe benfit,and prob work for less than what you're paying him......I guarantee you're prob paying him better than he could earn waiting tables or working at kentucky fried.....let him goto work there....where mysteriously enuff,if he comes in 15min late everyday,hes gonna get fired sooner rather than later...imagine that. Sorry,but if he only works 3 days a week and still cant get there on time hes irresponsible and no matter how good he is at work,ask yourself what would happen if suddenly you got sick,a client is going to meet you today at 7am to discuss lettering his 300+ fleet of trucks..you can't make it,and the guy sits there from 6:55 to 7:20 waiting for someone to show,then 7:30 b4 everything gets turned on and he can talk to someone.....is he gonna trust you now when you tell him you'll be there at 2pm to letter the truck? no,hes gonna have doubts. Will he go somewhere else? maybe,but is it worth taking the chance? If he has that much enthusiam or aptitude for the buisness,theres an easy test...fire him....if he comes back,gets to work on time and still works the same way,then he gives a damn about you,the buisness and learning something,if he doesnt,he was using you because he knew he could take advantage of the situation and you would let him.....its your buisness,not his and it's been around far longer than hes been workin there,and will be there long after hes gone. Since 63 we could literally write a book of people we've had like this,and its amazing how about 90% of the time everything runs smoother without them around no matter how much you think they're doing.
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"Sgts Shugart and Gordon again request permission to rope down to crash site two" Posts: 1223 | From: new orleans.la. | Registered: Mar 2000
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Einstein's teacher said he was a slacker and would never amount to anything too.....well, you know.
The Wizard of Oz was called "unimaginative and boring"....well, you know.
Tardiness may be the sign af a true artist. Not that all artists are tardy. But I am sure you will find that most are. My artist too is usually "late" but will stay till the last job is finished. If this guy is a great worker, enjoy the refreshing work ethic he shows, and don't sweat the petty stuff.
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""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers Posts: 3503 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003
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Lots of good answers both for and against keeping him. This post just goes to show that you can't just 'average' out all the answers to get the real answer. Do you want his ability, or do you want to teach him a lesson in life that most people his age possibly need. Are you a tolerant & forgiving person, or a 'master'. Again lots of good replies on both sides, with no 'real' answer. Thanks for starting the post. I sacked two people over the years who started the Late Start gimmick, but then became later and later, still requesting full payment for hours I knew weren't earned. I've had other great workers who worked their own flexible times. Reliability is the important issue I think. If they let you down, then obviously the dedication isn't there. If they're reliable when it does count, then there's no problem, IMHO.
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Well, I kept him. We had a talk on Friday after work and I explained to him that I schedule all installs on the days that he is here and the truck needs to be stocked and ready to go. I told him how happy I am with his work and initiative, but in order to give him any raises, the "on time" subject would have to be addressed. He showed up at 6:45 yesterday (15 min. early) and even brought doughnuts.Yummm...
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-------------------- Terry Baird Baird Signs 3484 West Lake Rd. Canandaigua, NY 14424 Posts: 790 | From: Canandaigua, New York | Registered: Dec 2002
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quote:He showed up at 6:45 yesterday (15 min. early) and even brought doughnuts.Yummm...
Terry, That really made me smile. Maybe it finally sunk in that it wasn't just a "time" issue but that you are depending on him. Some people just need a bar to rise up to.
-------------------- Kimberly Zanetti Purcell www.amethystProductivity.com Folsom, CA email: Kimberly@AmethystProductivity.com
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I say we get a Letterheads meet together at your place and when he comes in 15 minutes late, we all string him up and have a good ol' fashioned lynching! Kids! No friggin' work ethic.
-------------------- Mark Rogan The Great Barrington Sign Company 2 Stilwell Street, Great Barrington, MA 01230 mark@gbsignco.com
"Sometimes I think my head is so big because it is so full of fonts" Posts: 332 | From: Great Barrington, MA | Registered: Mar 2003
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quote:Originally posted by dveenema: Hey Glenn guess you don't want to apply here. We start at 6am and work to 5. And we don't work weekends.
I guess I wouldn't.
Framing houses I had to be there @ 5am. Working in the refinery I had to be there @ 6am. So, I know what it's all about. If the work was cool & the pay was right, I guess I'd have to get me @$$ out-a bed in the morning, but since I'm a graphic designer at a newspaper & don't have to be there til 2:30pm I won't be worrying about that.
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Terry, LMFAO!!!!!!!! All kidding aside Terry. We have a employee that started here about 8 years ago. Let me tell you of the frustration I have had with this guy. No matter how hard I tried to not separate him from others, I just couldn't do it. He was a great worker but a horrible employee. Always late and didn't care. He took his vacation 1 year to Daytona's bike week and didn't come back for a month. Walked back in like nothing ever happened. But let me say Terry, I rode this one out. He is now 27yrs old, has a wife and a new born child and he is our field supervisor. I don't know how to tell you, but if you like him and he's a good worker, well you might want to ride it out as well. Good workers are hard to come by. And honest ones as well. Good luck and take my advise on this one. It may just work out for you. I don't know how many employee's you have but I have 8. And I can tell you this guy has caused me more grief than any of them but I can tell you he is the last to go now.
-------------------- Mike Lindsey Blue Grass Neon, Inc. 725 Michigan Ave. Jeffersonville, In. 47130 bluegrassneon@aol.com Posts: 13 | From: Indiana | Registered: Aug 2003
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He said; "Cheryl, I enjoy working with you, but I am perplexed everytime you are late, which is most every Saturday. Therefore, I'm changing your hours for myself, as much as I am changing them for you. Please, whatever you do, do not change YOUR hours... Believe you are to be here at 8am every Saturday. But for the record books, I'm changing your hours to 8:30am... We'll get along much better from here on out, and you will keep your job, okay!"
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