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ScooterX
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I've got to do some 1.5 inch letters, in Arial no less. I tried lettering them with a quill, but i'm just not good enough yet to do lettering that small. I've already matched her special brown with some 1-shot, so i thought i'd hit some black vinyl with Ti-Coat and then paint the 1-shot onto the vinyl.

Here's the question:
Do I paint the vinyl first and then cut it, or do i cut it, weed it, and then paint? Or paint, then cut, then weed?

(I've already matched the paint - i'm not going to use screen ink or anything else. i tried some spray mask, and I' wasn't really happy with that either)

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The Moon
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I have learned from the Brothers Frog that you cut the vinyl, spary it with FrogJuice Brand Brown and when it dries/gets tacky, then you weed it, let it dry a little more, then apply low tack transfer tape... and WahLah!

Beeeeee carefull on loading up your cut lines with paint- you will either lose them or (this is fun) reseal them to each other again.

I Don't use other brands so you'll have to wait on the specifics with the One-Shot from someone who's tried that. [Wink]

The Not Fricken "promoting" just telling ya what I've done side of the Moon [Razz] [Smile]

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The Moon
aka: Stefenie Harris
Moonlight Designs
Pollock Pines, CA
learnin' somethin' new every day!
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Dave Sherby
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After trying several paints that are suppose to stick on vinyl and not being happy with the longevity, I gave up and went back to One Shot. When I airbrush vinyl, I use FG then paint. I have cut the vinyl after painting and before. I actually prefer cutting after painting. If you paint after cutting, you need to weed before the paint dries and that can cause boo boos from stick backs.

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Dave Sherby
"Sandman"
SherWood Sign & Graphic Design
Argyle TX 76226

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Jon Butterworth
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Don't what you are lettering on, but if you expect vinyl to stick to it why not use it as a mask for the paint!!!!! [Roll Eyes]

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Steven Girard
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I'm using enam-l-coat to put oneshot on vynil and it's doing great ..let the one shot dry and do what you want ...it's doing the job ...

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Alan Ackerson
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Hi Scooter,

I've also found if you use a little heat after applying the paint it will help open the cut lines, this makes weeding much easier.

I have ONLY done this with createx, krylon and screen inks. Not sure if this will work with the enamels. Maybe someone can shed a little light on this one too. Interested to know.

Good Luck.

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Alan Ackerson
LetterWorks Design and Graphics
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Ray Rheaume
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Scooter,
Just cut the vinyl and use it as a mask.
Paint it and go home nice and early.

For letterstyles like Arial, use a flat brush to get the corners sharp. I use Luco flats and have had good luck with them for years on "block" letter styles.

Rapid

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Ray Rheaume
Rapidfire Design
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North Haverhill, NH 03774
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I like my paint shaken, not stirred.

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W. R. Pickett
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Use "Gerbermask" dude.

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WR Pickett
Richmond, Va.

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Julian Braet
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Try "Enamel-Receptive" vinyl. It comes in both clear & white.(both work great) Clean the vinyl off with de-natured alcohol, plot it as usual, brush or roller coat 1-Shot, allow to dry to almost dry state, weed & allow to completly dry then apply.
PS, works great for airbrushing, but you cannot wait for it to dry completley, before weeding.
Good Luck [FYI]

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Julian"Mr.J"Braet
Mr.J Designs/Xcaliber Corp.
Paterson,N.J.


"Over 30 years in the business and I'm still auditioning for the job!"

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Try "Enamel-Receptive" vinyl. It comes in both clear & white.(both work great) Clean the vinyl off with de-natured alcohol, plot it as usual, brush or roller coat 1-Shot, allow to dry to almost dry state, weed & allow to completly dry then apply.
PS, works great for airbrushing, but you cannot wait for it to dry completley, before weeding.
Good Luck [FYI] [FYI]

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Julian"Mr.J"Braet
Mr.J Designs/Xcaliber Corp.
Paterson,N.J.


"Over 30 years in the business and I'm still auditioning for the job!"

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Try "Enamel-Receptive" vinyl. It comes in both clear & white.(both work great) Clean the vinyl off with de-natured alcohol, plot it as usual, brush or roller coat 1-Shot, allow to dry to almost dry state, weed & allow to completly dry then apply.
PS, works great for airbrushing, but you cannot wait for it to dry completley, before weeding.
Good Luck

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Julian"Mr.J"Braet
Mr.J Designs/Xcaliber Corp.
Paterson,N.J.


"Over 30 years in the business and I'm still auditioning for the job!"

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Julian Braet
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Try "Enamel-Receptive" vinyl. It comes in both clear & white.(both work great) Clean the vinyl off with de-natured alcohol, plot it as usual, brush or roller coat 1-Shot, allow to dry to almost dry state, weed & allow to completly dry then apply.
PS, works great for airbrushing, but you cannot wait for it to dry completley, before weeding.
Good Luck

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Julian"Mr.J"Braet
Mr.J Designs/Xcaliber Corp.
Paterson,N.J.


"Over 30 years in the business and I'm still auditioning for the job!"

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