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I have a customer that came to me with a large nylon tent-like thing. He wants white lettering on each end of the thing. I know there's a specific name for what it is, it is used as a cover, tent, shade, canopy thing like you might see at a flea market. The thing is RED and all slick heavy nylon. I'm thinking a mask and some sort of screen ink. Any suggestions?
And since I don't use screen ink, any tips for application and who is your supplier?
Thanks for the help!
-------------------- Jeff Vrstal Main Street Signs 157 E. Main Street Evansville, WI 53536 1-608-882-0322 Posts: 670 | From: Evansville, Wisconsin | Registered: Sep 2001
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Jeff- That question has been asked many times but I've found the best way is to use the Krylon Fusion. Follow Glenn Taylors instructions in the "Step-by-Step" section. I don't know about the screeen ink but cutting a mask, covering any exposed areas, and spraying 2 coats of Fusion works beautifully.
LOL.... Linda
-------------------- Linda Schmidt Vital D'Signs Greers Ferry, AR signlady@ozarkisp.net Posts: 160 | From: Greers Ferry, AR | Registered: Sep 2001
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there's also a special masking film, called "Fab-Tac" which is designed to adhere to nylon and acryllic canvas, such as "Sunbrella" brand awning materials. It is only sold by Astrup (as far as I know), in the USA, but they have branches all across the country.
FabTac is used like paint mask - cut it on your plotter, reverse weed, tape, and apply. It sticks to the fabric, but then comes off clean. pretty easy to use (even for a beginner like me).
its always a good idea to do a "base" coat of a color that matches the fabric you're painting. (ie, if its a blue canopy, then use a first coat of blue paint). that "fills" the holes and minimizes any leaks or paint "creep". (the paint that creeps will match the fabric). once the base coat dries, paint your final color as you normally would.
Exterior latex paint also does a good job of adhering to that acryllic canvas material. you don't HAVE to use vinyl screen ink. (the vinyl inks usually require a special thinner and a special wash-up, so its sort of a hassle if you're only buying it for one job).
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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It depends on what type of vinyl awning material it is.
If it feels a bit rubbery and has some sort of cloth backer, you need to use vinyl ink. The ink I recommend for Sunbrella (canvas) awning material will not adhere properly. Neither will lettering enamel or Krylon.
What I have found to work best for me is a combination of vinyl ink, a vinyl mask and either an airbrush or touchup gun. You want to lay down very thin layers of ink so as to avoid ink build up and bridging over the edges of the mask. It takes a few extra minutes, but the job will look better and last longer.
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The awning material in this case is slick (not sure if nylon) but heavy and similar to "windbreaker" material. It's not vinyl or canvas so I thought I'd ask what's best. On a surface like this, since it's a little different than canvas, I don't want to use a material that would "eat" something.
Thanks!
-------------------- Jeff Vrstal Main Street Signs 157 E. Main Street Evansville, WI 53536 1-608-882-0322 Posts: 670 | From: Evansville, Wisconsin | Registered: Sep 2001
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Advance used to make a two part ink for nylon, called nylo ink. Since nazdar bought them out, I'm sure nazdar has a similar product. The advance product used to work very well on nearly any awning, by brush or mask. Bill
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I like that base coat same color trick Scooter mentioned.
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but cutting a mask, covering any exposed areas, and spraying 2 coats of Fusion works beautifully. ![[Applause]](graemlins/clap.gif)
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