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Robert Beverly
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Just looking for different ways to give some corrugated tin a rust effect without airbrushing it on!
we are talking galvanized material
any suggestions?

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Robert Beverly
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Terry Whynott
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I'd get ahold of Mike Languein. I'd bet he'd have a few tricks under that top hat! [Smile]

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Terry Whynott
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Michael Boone
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use some muratic acid to get rid of the galvanize
then spray with salt water...

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Michael Boone
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Bill Preston
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Might try using a piece of sponge and stippling a red/brown paint onto the surface. How large a piece is this, and is it an indoor or outdoor thing?

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Bill Preston
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Robert Beverly
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Thanks Guys

I knew about the muriatic acid...is that available at home depot?

this is an inside job...and I did think about doing airbrush on it if there wasn't an easier way but i have 20 panels to do.

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Robert Beverly
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Bill Preston
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Home Depot might have it. If not there I think plumbers use it for clearing stubborn pipes. Also, any pharmacy or pharmacy supply place.

20 panels ---sounds like too much area to try to airbrush unless they are real small. How about a random pattern with a regular spray gun?

Another thought---rust appears sort of spotty---can you get that effect with either airbrush or spray gun? I think there is a way to make either one "spit" paint in droplets-- I just don't remember how to do it. Either way, I think this is going to take a fair amount of time.

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Bill Preston
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Kelly Thorson
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FUN JOB!
Give it a coat of red oxide primer and then paint it with a mixture of 2 parts burnt sienna to one part burnt umber. Then while paint is still wet throw some portland cement around on it or better yet let it dry and use a paste made of cement adhesive, cement and sand and sponge it randomly on - this gives it the pitted rust formations. Repaint with your base color or something similar. {Or if you would rather you can add some color to the cement mixture.} After it is dry fleck some black paint in and give it a wash of burnt sienna or orange to bring it to the tone you want. You should probably experiment on some scraps first! This gives the most realistic rust effect I have found and you can adjust to get from "slightly rusty" to "eaten away rusty". If you want some heavy raised rust areas you could use bondo before starting.

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Kelly Thorson
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Doug Allan
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quote:
can you get that effect with either airbrush or spray gun? I think there is a way to make either one "spit" paint in droplets
I think you could put you spray gun in the hands of a beginner & be spitting droplets in no time... I seem to even be able to get that effect with an aresol can, but it is never the look I'm after [Smile]

Robert, be careful with that muratic acid. I know thats a rather obvious warning, but I had left a acid soaked rag that had no odor in a tool bucket in my shop after an install one night, & came in the next day to work. After about 4 hours of breathing the air, still without any odor to warn me, I almost collapsed, & was not feeling quite right for about 2 days after that.

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Alfred Toy
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Use a circular body sander or grinder and abrade the surface, then spray with salt water.

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Alf Toy
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Robert Beverly
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Well,

I am going to go ahead and slap some paint around....sure sounds a bit more safe than the acid, as time is runnin short...

especially after taking a wiff of that acid!

I will let ya know...but Kelly's suggestion sounds like the best bet at this point!

I will be taking photos of the completed product...it is a showroom in Denver we are frantically putting together...ha...going to even sneak in a smoke machine...to go thru the piping and dribble out...that should be fun!

Thanks all again!

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Robert Beverly
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Robert,
I have some authentic rusted tin, even has multiple creases in it from when the hurricane blew down the barn, come with your truck and load up what you need LOL

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Mark Perkins
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have done this effect myself with a few shortcuts (job needed in a big hurry)

1/rubbed over the surface with a scouring pad

2/cleaned it with truck wash (wax n grease remover type thing)
3/painted it with penatrol

4/filled kids water pistles full of water based paint... indian red, brown, black, dirty white (white with a touch of brown) and a muddy green (yellow with a sum black added)

5/squirted the colours quickly so that they ran together and sponged off the excess paint with a couple of cheap car washing sponges

turned out just fine

good luck with your rust

cheers
gail

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Glenn S. Harris
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Seems like you'd have no trouble finding plenty of actuall rusty tin in Texas. [Smile]

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Robert Beverly
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Glen

I would have to agree with you on that...and heck...Mark has a full load for me!..
LOL

but I would probably spend more time protecting and controlling the actual thing as opposed to playing with the finish of it...

as for you Gail...I thought I was creative...boy...yours really hit an all time high in creativity!...and approach!

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Robert Beverly
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Curtis hammond
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Rust effect. \
Paint on some rust colored paint while still tacky apply some sand...

thats always works..

Or here ya go robert.

http://www.faux-painting-techniques.com/rust.html

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Try 2 parts vinegar and one part clorox. It will rust a nail in 10 seconds. It will disolve steel wool in less than a minute. Two household products, that together, are one of the most corrosive things on the planet. Guaranteed to amaze!!!!! I'm still not sure it will go through the galvanization though???

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There are several new "rust" faux effect latex paints on the market check your local faux suppliers,...

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sandblast it, wet it,stack it...in two weeks you'll have more rust than you wanted.

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Monte Jumper
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Muratic acid will eat off the galvanized finish. Then wipe with Clorox and watch the rust develop...then spray with water to stop the rusting. It's a trick they taught is in a set design class I took one summer.

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