and he carries the reminders... [img] mediaservice.photoisland.com/auction/Jun/20036146684870063225123.jpg [/img]
If this cartoon does or doesn't come through, this is only a joke.
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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It didn't come through. Wipe the sweat off the forhead, try it again.
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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I drew a cartoon I thought people would get a kick out of. I finally got an album set up at photoisland, and clicked on the "auction" thing, but I can't get from there to here.
I'll try later.
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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You might try imagestation.com. When I posted something from photoisland, it disappeared after a few minutes. The picture I posted on imagestation is still up a month later.
-------------------- David Harding A Sign of Excellence Carrollton, TX Posts: 5106 | From: Carrollton, TX, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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""Good judgment comes from experience; and a lot of that comes from bad judgment" - Will Rogers Posts: 3503 | From: Beautiful Newaygo, Michigan | Registered: Mar 2003
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And this is the look after dealing with the ladies. Wait 'till their burly husbands show up.
The bible says: "Even a fool, when he holds his peace, is counted wise." Gotta work on that one. Or get new track shoes!
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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James..cool cartoon!!! But don't mess with the wimmin!!! LOL LOL
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Kissy, I did'nt see the 'toon....but somehow I'm in total agreement with yer response, since I found myself on that road one time too...after bein' pushed in the "corner" fer so long, I came out cryin' a lot...then one day my righteous, red-neck, indignation took over an' I came out fightin' but got my butt kicked even worse by that 5'11, 222 lb. man, LOL.....Mr. James pro'ly don't realize how it could be 'round that "porch".....it could be like makin' a cartoon about child abuse...
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"Look like a girl, act like a lady, think like a man, work like a dog" Posts: 5758 | From: "Sweet Home" Alabama | Registered: Mar 2003
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....Oh duh, finally saw the thing.....LOL, I choose to think it means he loses a lot 'cuz he's the dumb, idiot, image-of-his-upbring, form of the male species and someday he actually will figure that out an' go to domestic violence classes an' be SO changed that he will become one of the foremost teachers on the subject thereby becoming a "credit to his gender"......or did I read too much into that, James?
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"Look like a girl, act like a lady, think like a man, work like a dog" Posts: 5758 | From: "Sweet Home" Alabama | Registered: Mar 2003
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My wife warned me that it might be taken the wrong way.
It's like I take the 5 rounds thing as a complement,The cartoon is what I thought would happen 20 seconds into round 1. I don't hit women. Sorry.
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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James,,,,, when a woman WARNS you about something.... especially about posting something publicly about a sensitive subject.........
take it to HEART
-------------------- John Smith Kings Bay Signs (Retired) Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 822 | From: Central Florida - The Sunshine State | Registered: Jan 2000
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Kissy & Sheila Congratulations to you both for having what it takes and then moving on in a positive way.... your are an inspiration to women and men who know you.
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Cripes! How do you women respond when the jerks verbally abuse you? James seems like a nice fellow, who didn't consider the emotional baggage some women carry.
-------------------- Wright Signs Wyandotte, Michigan Posts: 2787 | From: Wyandotte, MI USA | Registered: Jan 1999
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Most women don't go to a specialty store and pick out this particular baggage. I can't say the same about the fire arms though. It's tough putting traumatic experiences in the past and keeping them there. It doesn't take much for them to be triggered and and then a struggle ensues, to respond quietly or react with firearms.
My suggestion to you, David, is to make a point not to make these women feel stupid. My guess is they are not won over by insensitive men who have no earthly idea what it is to be treated like an animal, ironically, by the man who declared before God, to protect them.
I was raised that women were to be cherished and treated with respect. It's not always the case, mine or thiers.
Sure, many of us choose to be discreet about our past, and with every breath, forget we ever had to cower there. I applaud the ones who stand up for themselves, you have no idea how hard it is for some of these flowers to bloom again. If yer not pulling out weeds, please stay out of the garden. Trampling the flowers is frowned upon, usually at gun point.
David, i didn't mean for this to sound like a threat LOL. I'm concerned that you could lose respect from some of these women. It's hard for them to trust in general after such trials...don't give em any reason not to trust you. That can burn a bridge faster than a fire blazin up a dry mountain in the summer time.
James...I had to come back and address you as well. I'm sorry this post took a turn for the worst, at your expense...how ever ya just never know how someone will take things. Some women do the best with what they have left over, and that's sometimes not much but a fear and an escape route...if they are lucky. If you can not understand this way of thinking, you are truly blessed and I hope you never really have to go there. Some women, and men too, make it back and find it hard to see things as euphorically as others do.
We are not bad folk, we just need a lot of (safe) hugs and all the respect you are willing to offer. When speaking to and about women, it's a good rule to be honorable...regarding the alternative, the boss said not to touch that button...any more details would be too much information for some folk, LOL.
Peace, Lindian
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well i tend not to take things too seriously...so i hope you guys don't either...i just thought this was really funny!
A study in Wisconsin showed that the kind of male face a woman finds attractive can differ depending on where she is in her menstrual cycle. For instance, if she is ovulating she is attracted to men with rugged and masculine features.
And if she is menstruating she is more prone to be a attracted to a man with scissors shoved in his temple and a bat jammed up his a$$ while he is on fire.
-------------------- Karyn Bush Simply Not Ordinary, LLC Bartlett, NH 603-383-9955 www.snosigns.com info@snosigns.com Posts: 3516 | From: Bartlett, NH USA | Registered: Jan 2001
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I hope no one thinks I have anything to do with the sentiments of the cartoon. I saw someone was having a problem posting a picture and I gave advice on posting an image, without knowing the contents of the graphic. If you will notice from the posting times, my reply hit only a minute after Steve managed to upload his drawing.
Humor is very subjective, where one may find wit, someone else may find insensitivity and tragedy. I try to take humor in the spirit intended for usually a person means no offense, although he may not realize how his attempt at lightness may come across to another who has dealt with different life experience. In no way do I condone violence to anyone.
Although I have a great sense of humor, I didn’t get to the ripe old age of thirty four and a half (that’s 34 years plus half of 34 years) by intentionally affronting people who can knock my block off... and that includes just about everybody.
-------------------- David Harding A Sign of Excellence Carrollton, TX Posts: 5106 | From: Carrollton, TX, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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First, I noticed the pic was no longer showing up on my computer. I don't know if that is just on my end, but in case it can't be seen by others I am re-posting it here, content, baggage & all:
I think others who may arrive late to this thread could easily judge this more harshly if left to their imagination. (I really doubt it needs to be said here, but I don't condone domestic violence either)
Jim, I like your sketching skills! Very good composition too. Good balance of lights & darks, & and overall nice retro looking design.
As for the subject matter, in case anyone missed it...
quote:Originally posted by John Deaton III: Heck if we aint blessed with the best looking women in the sign business...
quote:Originally posted by Jim Donahue: But "They only let 'em in 'cause they're cute"......
quote:Originally posted by Kissymatina: Those are fighting words boy.
So Jim's humorous comment (or an attempt at such) was about womens looks & nothing more. Chris put the "fighting" concept on the table which I thought was also quite light-hearted & humorous & in keeping with my perception of her personality.
I think Jim's cartoon of himself with a black eye is a gracious acceptance of a lighthearted bit of backlash his comments brought him.
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my wife told me that to remember 1 thing that i might hit her but that i had to go to sleep sometime and that i would not wake up.
if i had known that i was going to have these strokes i might have tried it.
-------------------- Jimmy Chatham Chatham Signs 468 stark st Commerce, Ga 30529 Posts: 1766 | From: Commerce, GA, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Doug has a good perception of the situation. Humor often employs extremes, so I thought I'd use that absurd line spoken to Rosemary about "They only let them..."
The cartoon is about a guy who COULDN'T POSSIBLY hit a woman because he'd have the stuffing pummeled out of him while the starting bell is still ringing in the air.
Read that again .
Linda really has some insight about me being in my own little world. I've appologized, but it seems like five letters, s-o-r-r-y can only do so much. When a thing is offensive enough to make someone move their jacket aside and reveal a concealed weapon, that's pretty offensive. My understanding of the rest of the world is that it's a series of cause and effect relationships. I'm the cause of any trouble created by the nonsense cartoon. Sorry again,I'll try not to be the elephant in the flowerbed, bull in a china shop.
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
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Ms.Linda, I read an' reread yer post and all I can say is dittos...you s'ed well .....hey David, I was just tryin' to be light-hearted in my responses to James...are you intimidated by women who can take the bad an' make it good? hey, besides I been married twice...I ain't got no "feelins" left, LOL
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"Look like a girl, act like a lady, think like a man, work like a dog" Posts: 5758 | From: "Sweet Home" Alabama | Registered: Mar 2003
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I just read this thread for the first time. My first marriage was a 12 round bout, but I still found more than humor in the cartoon. James, I could see your humility in the cartoon. Not every one is able to depict themselves as the loser even in jest.
I thought it was funny and sweet(talented also). Ya must be a neat guy!
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Old enough to know better...Too young to resist. Posts: 1891 | From: Ponchatoula, LA | Registered: Nov 2000
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Ive read alot of James posts on the board, and he seems to be a pretty intelligent guy. Knowing this, I could understand his cartoon and him taking a poke at himself. I truly didnt understand where it started, until pointed out by Doug. No doubt spousal abuse is a heated subject, and should be. But, I am sure James meant nothing more than humor in his toon. He has asked forgiveness and stated he is sorry. Seems everyone has or should take him up on it.
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It was not my intent to crawl your case...I was jumping in to explain why I thought Chris and Sheila might have had a problem with the cartoon. I've worked with battered women and was just trying to enlighten.
I have no beef with you. I did not get mad. I'm sorry if you thought that way.
I did get irritated by the way David responded, that's why I jumped in. It was like he was spiralling blind-folded into a barn load of tangled bob-wire, and had no clue. I didn't think anybody needed to go there! I was trying to nip a battle in the bud.
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Linda,I re-read my post and for the life of me see nothing inciteful in it. James was having some fun, nothing more. For others to bring their past mistakes in on it is silly. I figure you have a lot more to say about men in this regard which has nothing to do with me or James. I just never learned to apologize for other's behavior. Sorry, been married 28 years, gotta be doing something right. Believe me, I have a clue.
-------------------- Wright Signs Wyandotte, Michigan Posts: 2787 | From: Wyandotte, MI USA | Registered: Jan 1999
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While I wasn't rolling on the floor, I saw the humor in James's cartoon. It's a shame that others had to read far more into something than it was.
Some people wear their past like a crown of thorns playing sympathy cards to disguise whatever emotional baggage they insist on carrying on through life with.
I grew up in an abusive household but I rarely talk about it. It just doesn't matter. I won't use it as an excuse to act like a jerk or discount my shortcomings like so many others do.
Far too many people put the blame for their shortcomings and failures on the backs of others so they don't have to face the fact that they messed up.
I know men and women that claim that they were raped, beaten, abused, and just generally pooped upon when in reality it is all a ploy to stand back and say "Look at me... Look at me..." and it is crock.
Do not take this that I think all claims of abuse are percieved because I do know better. I also know it isn't chisled in stone anywhere that life is fair because it isn't at times. I also don't believe treating your spouse or children poorly, beating them, or whatever is OK, either.
But I do suppose that it is OK to threaten someone and make implied threats of attacks with handguns, though. What's with that?
Does a crappy past influence your future? Absolutely. Does it mean that one gets to blame them for their sorry lot in life? Nope. It is up to the individuals to use those experiences to shape themselves and forge their own future.
Insensitivity is not gender specific. Neither is cruelty, abusive behavior, and just general stupidity. It walks both sides of the street.
-------------------- Bruce Bowers
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"Things work out best for the people who make the best of the way things work out." - Art Linkletter Posts: 6464 | From: Saint Cloud, Minnesota | Registered: Jun 1999
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I’m glad Doug published the full story. It puts perspective on the point of the cartoon. I apologize for jumping in, guns blazing, without knowing James’ intent and thereby bringing this thread where it wasn’t meant to go. Being judgmental, especially without facts, is poor policy for anyone. I really need to get some better tasting shoes.
Now, I will just put down the post and back away quietly...
-------------------- David Harding A Sign of Excellence Carrollton, TX Posts: 5106 | From: Carrollton, TX, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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The only "clue" I was referring to was how the ladies might feel at this point in their lives. It didn't seem like patience was going to be a quality, muchless a stong suit of the resulting posts.
Bruce,
The skills you posses in dealing with your past are not learned by all and especially not over night. Some people take it in stride. Some people have extreme feelings about it. Yes, by many, the reactions may have seemed extreme and too much information. But apparently that was their opinion. The gun gig was merely to let some know that after somebody has had to fight for their life, they are affected by that. They refuse to allow it to happen again and anything offering an idea of a repeat situation is not met with an embrace.
I'll say it again...it was not meant as a threat...merely an example of how some folks feel after the incident has occured.
There are cases of folks who cry wolf, but those who say," I didn't think that was funny." are usually being honest.
Bruce, I was trying to stop a train wreck...not cause one. You're old enough to know that there are many steps to coming to terms with traumatic events. You may have hopped and skipped over them without a care...but that is not the case with every one and it's not your place to say who should have dealt with what, or by by when.
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I think its time to end this, whats any of this got to do with making signs?
Someone said something or drew something and it was taken the wrong way so lets leave it at that. I don't think James needs a lecture he said he was sorry and I dont think we need read anymore about why Chrissy took offence we understand. I don't see the point in talking about this anymore.
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