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Ya know. I really don't do a lot of vinyl, but today I was wrapping some Kenworth trucks, no sleeper, with two 6 " vinyl stripes. They completly wrapped around. Most of the job went OK excepts for the areas around the rivets. I had one area where there was four rivets in a 4"x4" area. Boy, what's the secret to getting the vinyl to nicely comform to the shape of the rivet? I tried the rivet brush, heat, and just my fingernails. Maybe I'm too pickey, but I really wasn't impressed with the way they came out. Maybe next Sep. at the Nanimo meet, someone can do a demo on this.
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Surface prep is the key. Make sure the area around the rivets is free of dirt & grease; otherwise the vinyl will never stick there. Only use 2mm premium vinyl.
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and dry, the secrete is dry apply, with premium vinyl and a light touch with a heat tool of some kind.,, after you rapid prep them to make sure no wax is left behind.
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I go over them like they weren't there ->/. After removing masking gently caress the vinyl in a circular motion towards the rivet ... poke one tiny hole at base ... tuck around rivet with squeegee/riv-brush ... THEN heat and re-tuck http://www.slamgraphics.com/tips/rivetron/aapage1.htm
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If you want, you could make a testing sample from a scrap of Omegaboard. Drill some holes to approximate the distance between the rivets & attach carriage bolts. Now make it dirty like they do in cleaning ads. Spray some oil on it & rub dirt into it. Set it outside someplace where it'll get dirtier for a few days. Then clean it up & test your application skills. Practice makes perfect (or close enough).
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Hey! Are you kidding, Bill? That's too much work for lazy me! But you are right about practicing. All the above stuff is helpful. Whenever possible, I remove the damn rivets, lay the vinyl, then put 'em back in. Rivets suck! Love- JILL
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Alicia, Great idea for a demo....we all struggle with this rivet issue. We will try and supply a hands-on demo for 'vinyl over rivets'. Your 'accommodation package' will be forwarded to you next week. We welcome any suggestions you have. More later.....thanks Sue
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Hey, I tries Mark Matyjakowki's sugesstion of pretendting that there not there, and it worked. I gently layed the vinyl over the rivet and comtinued pressing down the remainder as usual. Then I went back to the rivet and push towards the rivets, make a tiny hole at the base of the rivet, and pushed out the air. It worked!
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Alicia, once the rivet is sealed, you MUST apply heat to release the memory or it will tent back up within a few days. Get them good and hot, but don't scortch the film.
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