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Well, this may seem like a basic corel question to some of you. But I just tried it and failed.
How do you scan something into corel, and then be able to work with it as vector art?
Up till now, I've been scanning thru Gerber, and bringing stuff into Corel as an .eps. I'd like to skip that step and learn to scan right into corel.
I'm using corel 11, and still have corel 9 on my computer to use as well.
Here's what I did, and what my results are so far. I went into corel, clicked on acquire image, scanned in my art. Came in fine, but it's in one block and can't be ungrouped or broken apart in elements with which to manipulate and work on.
So, can anyone give me a clue here. This one of those questions I know I should have asked long ago. Finally confessing my ignorance here!
THANK YOU for any help. Please ... be gentle with me! Nettie
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Janette: You still have to trace with Corel Trace then save the vector as .cmx. Basically when you scan the result are either jpeg or tiff depending on settings.
-------------------- Mario G. Lafreniere (Fergie) J&N Signs Winter did show up! Posts: 1257 | From: Chapleau, Ontario | Registered: Jun 1999
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You can also acquire your image right from Corel Scan.
-------------------- Mario G. Lafreniere (Fergie) J&N Signs Winter did show up! Posts: 1257 | From: Chapleau, Ontario | Registered: Jun 1999
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I took what I had scanned, and brought it into Corel Trace. Having never been there before, I was unsure what to do. I figured out some stuff, after some trial and error. Tried "sketch" first, which produced the image in a bunch of "x's" when in corel. (kinda weird) So I went back into trace and selected advanced outline, which seemed to work.
I really appreciate the help!!! Nettie
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corel scan/trace works good but ADOBE STREAMLINE 4.0 is better and easier. it will scan, then you can erase anything you dont want traced, then you trace it and it will save as an AI.
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Here is one of the ways I scan into Corel Draw. Most of the time, using the Corel Scan in Draw gives me better results than scanning directly into trace. So, if you scan from Draw using CorelScan, set your preset to Scan to Trace. Depending on your scanner driver, you may have the option in you settings to set your output to Line Art.
Once you get the image in Draw, click your right mouse button on it and choose Edit Bitmap to open PhotoPaint. Edit as necessary and from the File menu, select Save as and save it as a CPT file. Next open Trace and open the CPT file in trace. Once you trace it, click on the trace anywhere and hit Control-C to copy it. You then can paste it into Draw, ungroup it and edit as necessary.
Hope this helps. I know it seems like the long way around but as I said, I generally end up with a better trace using this method.
-------------------- Dave Johnson Saltsburg, PA
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First, I scan the image into my "scanner provided program" as a full color jpeg. Save it to a file and close the program. Then, with Corel open, I open up OCR Trace. (oh yeah, I'm in Corel8). Now I open the saved jpeg from the folder I saved it in. Go up to the tool bar and click on "Image", "Convert to>", and select "Black and White". You will be asked for a "Threshold" and 128 is usually the preset number which if fine, so I click "OK". After that step is done, I go back to the tool bar and click on "OCR-Trace", "Perform Trace>" and I choose "by outline". When the trace is completed in the new window opened, click on any part of the image and these little red boxes appear. When that happens, I go to "Edit", "Copy". Then I go back to the Corel drawing paer that is open and click "Paste". The image should now appear and you can double click on it and do what ever you want to it, edit any node, etc. I also usually acquire it through CorelScan and use that image as an underlayment to see through my image while I am editing. Was that confusing, I know I'm confused just trying to explain it. Good Luck
Tony Segale
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This is what I do, I scan into corel like you said then I right click and pick trace. It opens CorelTrace and then it will save your results back to CorelDraw after it is done and you close CorelTrace. But their is always a but most of the time I just lock the scan down on a layer and create a new layer that I call drawing or whatever, then I trace over the scan all buy hand then when I am done I delete the scanned layer and I am left with my hand traced vector drawing just the way I want it. I find this is way better than anything I can get with using the Trace function less nodes and way more accurate a drawing.
Hope this helps answer your question.
-------------------- Steve Eisenreich Dezine Signs PO BOX 6052 Stn Forces Cold Lake, Alberta T9M 2C5 Posts: 774 | From: Cold Lake | Registered: Mar 2000
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nettie this question is as old as corel it self and as everyone has already said, each person has their own way of doing it
corel trace is better now than it has ever been but still not acurate enough to avert hours of cleanup from most scans i believe, unless we are talking something very simple and then I find it easier to do what was mentioned above and simply draw objects to match the image.
nearly all sign making programs had as their biggest selling point a 'real easy' vectoring control they all said 'you can just scan and cut' but it has never been that simple
of all the programs i've been involved with, inspire (would you beleive it) came closest to it's claim of one button verctorising.... but the rest of the program was junk!
as an avid corel user, is there any other program? I can tell you how I do it for what it's worth
scan into anything you like just as long as you have good clear resolution and the controls you need to get a great first image, if that's coreldraw then so be it. since ver 9 corel uses your scanner controls instead of corelscan anyway.
9 times out of ten I will use this image as a guide to hand draw objects over the top when you really look at most logo's or images your going to cut, they are simple shapes, it is just quicker and easier to lay those shapes over the guide and weld, trim and type as required
having said that however there are times I need to shortcut the process for just a section of the image (sending the outside shape to the router or plotter and airbrushing the image on to the shape)and so adobe streemline is the way i choose to go
returning the vectorised art as an .ai file and again laying it over the original scan in the draw screen to check the shapes and in particular the size.
if you scan into the draw screen you can, as you know, right button click and send the image straight to corel trace, use the advanced outline tool (look at the min colour setting) and when you have finished vectorising it, just closing the trace window (ver 9 & above) will place the line art back in the same place you started from (over the scaned image)
posterising the scaned image in draw (effects, transform, posterise) and limiting the colours to a workable number can save heaps of time with the auto trace tool as well. (ver 9 and lower) with the bitmap selected chose the shape tool (second one down the toolbox) you will notice the curser looks different place near the edge of the image and click a vector line will appear, trying to follow the edge of the colour you clicked on
all in all lots of ways to do the same thing
cheers gail
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I'm with Old Paint on this one. You might want to look into getting Adobe Streamline 4.0. What I usually do with Corel PhotoPaint 8 is scan the image and save it as a .tif file. With Streamline I reopen the tif and convert it to eps. Streamline is quick and easy. From there, I usually bring it into CorelDraw where I can break the image apart for color seperations. I only have a small one color plotter, but have pulled off a few multicolor tricks with my experience as a t-shirt printer back in my youth.
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