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I am completing a starting line for our local race track. This was composed of (4) 20in.X 96in. MDO boards. We also installed. They requested vinyl and with the colors they selected( 3 colors layered ) it took right at 50 yds. of material. We also put the vinyl edging, after it was installed. When I started figuring the price, I almost hit the floor myself. Keep in mind I don't do many big jobs, which this was for me. I usually do 10mm Coloplast for $150.00 unless it requires digital prints. What do you think is a fair price for this job? My husband does race at this track every week and we are stockholders but I refuse to do things at cost.
-------------------- Cynthia Pack 246 Diamondview Loop Galax, Va. 24333 Posts: 659 | From: Galax, Virginia USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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-------------------- Arvil Shep' Shepherd Art by Shep' -------- " Those who dance are thought to be mad by those who cannot hear the music " Posts: 1281 | From: Mt Airy NC | Registered: Mar 2001
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I'm confused too. Do you mean $595 for all 4 signs or $595 each? I'd say 4 for that price is too low and the other is too high for one. But then again I haven't seen how much copy, does it have a complicated logo, etc...so I GUESS it's hard to answer your question....
-------------------- Bill Diaz Diaz Sign Art Pontiac IL www.diazsignart.com Posts: 2115 | From: Pontiac, IL | Registered: Dec 2001
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Was the MDO painted already or did you have to do that and did you have to cut the 4x8's down to size? Was there a lot of copy on the signs? You say three color registration? cheap vinyl or high performance?
Based on your description I doubt I would have touched the job for less than $800.
Just out of curiosity, how do you arrive at any of your pricing of your sign work?
Where did you aquire your business knowledge from before entering the sign business?
It makes a big difference in what you should be getting for your work.
-------------------- Bob Stephens Skywatch Signs Zephyrhills, FL
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Your right I didn't give enough information. The MDO board had to be sealed and painted. The vinyl used was Oracal 651. The font used was decorated 035. Nothing fancy, no logo just the name of the track. Two 20in. X 96In. boards, that we had to cut, were sealed, sanded, and 2 coats of outdoor paint on them. (sanded between each coat) I know that it could have been painted but the weather here has been so wet that the track decided on vinyl to save on drying time. These two boards are put together on one side of the track. The other two boards, the same thing was done to them, are placed on the other side and then attached to a guard rail. I could get nasty about what business background I have and how much business experience I have but I won't. I tried to stress that this is not a regular job I was doing but a job that I was not doing for nothing. We are stockholders and I don't want to make a regular profit on this job. I usually price cost X 5 for regular jobs. I figure I have $285.00 in material.
-------------------- Cynthia Pack 246 Diamondview Loop Galax, Va. 24333 Posts: 659 | From: Galax, Virginia USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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put most race tracks right up there with real estate agents, lawerys, multi-level marketing and motivational speakers.....CHEAP S.O.B'S!!!!! and you can bet as soon as they find someone to it cheaper then you...there gone!!!! so let em go the 1st time..save yourself the hassel!
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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A general rule of thumb for me is $12.50 sq ft for MDO. Add 50% if DS. This is for medium copy-two colors. Keeping in mind what your shop rate is, figure out how long it will take to cut and sand the edges. If your shop rate is $60. an hr. and it takes 20 minutes each to cut and sand, then throw in $20. cut fee. If I don't know what to charge for installation, I try to figure out how long it will take and apply the same principle.
-------------------- Laura Butler Vision Graphics & Sign 4479 Welch Rd Attica, Mi 48412 Posts: 2855 | From: Attica, Mi, USA | Registered: Nov 2000
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Hi Cynthia...Using your own thinking of 5x cost you are way losing money on the job! BUT you Are making SOME money and if you folks are associated with the track and want to help out, that's fine.
Personally, I am with Joe...
-------------------- Dave Grundy retired in Chelem,Yucatan,Mexico/Hensall,Ontario,Canada 1-519-262-3651 Canada 011-52-1-999-102-2923 Mexico cell 1-226-785-8957 Canada/Mexico home
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