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Lotti Prokott
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In order to draw an existing logo, I have to modify some letters. This "h" has been broken apart in several places, and new elements (taken from other letters) have been added. When applying "fill open curves" I get the weirdest results. How can I connect the ends, to get a closed path? Shouldn't there be a simple command for that?
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Lotti Prokott
Woodland Signs
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I would start over...Autoclose will close an open line or you can choose that command with your shape tool. If you are putting a few closed objects together choose weld with your pick tool and weld them together. One of Corel's best functions.

Take the H, Convert to curves, overlay shapes you want to add. Then Weld as I described above. Then overlay a patch,if you need to remove some areas and choose trim. The diagram you have shown has connected nodes in the wrong places. You might also see the problem in wireframe..... Good Luck, Jack

[ May 09, 2003, 11:39 AM: Message edited by: bronzeo ]

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Bill Cosharek
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Lotti,

Check your email. Although Jack offered good advice, I found it easier just to digitize it in Eurovector; which took less than 4 minutes. Just imported jpg & commenced drawing overtop. It took longer saving, transferring & typing this message. (I didn't know how soon you needed
it & thought that explanation was a bit confusing.)

I saved it in a few formats to choose from.
Hope this helps.

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Thank you both, your help is very much appreciated.
Jack had the right idea, with starting over.
I did in fact draw over it this morning and it didn't take long. Thanks for sending sending your version anyway, Bill, I'm impressed with your help.
But I have had this problem in the past and still don't get it. Auto-close will only close the ends of one and the same path, but not connect the ends of two separate paths. I know about welding shapes, but, is it not possible to draw separate lines (open curves) and connect the ends to each other?

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Lotti, you have to go into edit mode, locate the nodes that are not joined, select them both and click the join button. (There are two buttons side by side, one joins two nodes, the other separates them) Usually you'll be able to see the ones that are not connected. They show as a bigger square than the others.

It looks like there are several places in that graphic that would need to be joined.

Hope this helps you figure it out.

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Lotti, have you combined the two (or more) shapes before attempting to join the points? You must select both shapes and 'COMBINE' first.

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Arthur has the correct answer!!!!

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Lotti Prokott
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Thanks you guys! COMBINE does the trick. Ha! I knew it would be easy [Big Grin]
Also thanks to Graham Parsons from Sask., who e-mailed me with the same answer.
I just couldn't find this in the help menu.

I hope one of these days (month, years)a signmaker will write a Corel Draw manual specifically for other signmakers, I would be the first to buy it. (Hint,hint)

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I've found that the auto close feature in corel is a great Idea but it does not always work as it's supposed to.. when it works it's great, but when it doesn't it's best to hit the undo (ctrl z). Fortunately manually closing paths or objects isn't that hard, nor is it hard to identify open nodes.

I've purposely broken an object and used autoclose just to show the results, I broke it five times, most problem vector objects will have only one or two problem nodes.
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This is what the object looks like in wireframe, when using the shape tool
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There are a couple of things to note,
1. The status bar states 'Curve: 30 nodes on 5 subpaths' - This lets you know what you're dealing with, since this object contains only one connected path it should all be on one path, if it was an object with an inner an outer path like the letter 'o' or 'a' it should have two subpaths

2. Some of the nodes are darker than others - the darker nodes are open

Also be aware that the shape tool only deals with one object at a time, if you can see nodes on only part of your object you will have to select all of the parts with the pick tool and combine them to form one object.


Closing nodes is easy, simply select the open nodes by drawing a bounding box around them with the shape tool

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Then close with the node close tool

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Do this with all the open nodes; the good news it than it takes a lot less time to do this than it does to describe it, actually only takes a few seconds to fix a problem vector.

Also of note is the use of the status bar, I kinda like this tool, and refer to it often whenever I'm dealing with multiple objects or using the shape tool, it contains lots of useful info, and so I position it on the top of my screen, It's default position is at the bottom.

[ May 09, 2003, 09:36 PM: Message edited by: TransLab ]

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