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Elaine Beauchemin
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Hi all!

do you say closed surveillance or close surveillance?

as in...

Restricted

this area is
under closed
surveillance

Thanks!

É

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Élaine Beauchemin
scrip
Lettrage Scripsit inc.
St-Hubert, Quebec, Canada
www.scripsit.net

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Tony McDonald
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my vote is for "close"

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Ace Graphics & Printing
Camdenton, MO. USA

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Tony Potter
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Yep. 'close' would get my vote as well.

'close' reads as 'tight' or 'large area of very good coverage'

'closed' reads as 'limited area of coverage'

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Tony Potter
Blind Mice and Company
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Cedar Rapids, IA 52403
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David Harding
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"Closed" would also imply the surveillance is no longer in operation, exactly the opposite of the intended point. The word you want is "close". "Close" is close enough (I just HAD to say it!)

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David Harding
A Sign of Excellence
Carrollton, TX

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Kathy Joiner
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If you look up the meaning of surveillance in the english dictionary, the meaning is "close observation." So the guys are right, use close.

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Kathy Joiner
River Road Graphics
41628 River Road
Ponchatoula, La.70454

Old enough to know better...Too young to resist.

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Terry Whynott
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Actually, wouldn't that mean the phrase "Close Surveillance" is redundant? hmmm [Confused]

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Terry Whynott
Walkerton, Ontario

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Bob Darnell
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Is the sign supposed to say "close", meaning being under careful watch, or is the idea to refer to being monitored by cameras, as in "closed circuit TV"?

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Bob Darnell
London, Ontario, Canada

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Jeff Ogden
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I would favor "closed" surveillance, as in a closed system.I would read it that closed implies secret, or not open for all to see.A private system, closed to the public.....

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Jeff Ogden
8727 NE 68 Terr.
Gainesville FL, 32609

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Ken Henry
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Hi Elaine. Perhaps the best approach might be to call the customer and ask for clarification as to THEIR meaning and intent. Closed could make sense if they're referring to a quarrantined area for instance, or an area that's "closed to the general public", but is under video surveilance. [Frown]

An unrelated Proper English question:

Is the past tense of "stink".....stank or stunk? [Confused] [Confused]

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Ken Henry
Henry & Henry Signs
London, Ontario Canada
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Kimberly Zanetti
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Ken,
Believe it or not, they are both gramatically correct.

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Kimberly Zanetti Purcell
www.amethystProductivity.com
Folsom, CA
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Steve Burke
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I would stick with "close surveillance"- the other option may be valid grammatically, but it means something else not in prevalent use- the public perception of this phrase would dictate using "Close".

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Steve Burke
Cascades Inc
NS Canada

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Jim Upchurch
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I let the customer make those decisions.

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Jim Upchurch
Artworks
Olympia WA

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change it to BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING YOU!!! real simple....

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joe pribish-A SIGN MINT
2811 longleaf Dr.
pensacola, fl 32526
850-637-1519
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Elaine Beauchemin
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Thanks!!

I would have prefered close...but the client insisted on closed...

it's just for a background sign on a shooting scene...it will probably be out of fucus anyway.

OP is right with BIG BROTHER lollll

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Élaine Beauchemin
scrip
Lettrage Scripsit inc.
St-Hubert, Quebec, Canada
www.scripsit.net

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