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Here in Iowa we now are able to operate our ATV's along the roads as long as they are registered. Most of them have plastic fenders that is ABS I think. It has an oily feel to it. Anyway my question is: What do you do to get the paint or vinyl to stick to that stuff? Is there a prep or something you can etch the plastic with or should you just use a scratch pad? Most customers shiver when I mention a scratch pad! Thanks for your help!
-------------------- Rob Lenz Lenz Signs 402 Elm St. Osage, Iowa 50461 Posts: 134 | From: Osage, Iowa | Registered: May 2002
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Hi Rob. What you might try is flame treating the areas that you wish to apply the vinyl to. This involves using a butane or propane torch, and quickly passing the flame over the area you want to treat. The plastic fenders probably have a mould-releasing agent on all surfaces which normally prevents the vinyl from adhering properly. The flame burns this off, exposing only the plastic surface. As added insurance, you can wipe down the treated areas with Rapid Prep as well.
Hope this helps you out.
-------------------- Ken Henry Henry & Henry Signs London, Ontario Canada (519) 439-1881 e-mail: kjmlhenry@rogers.com
Why do I get all those on-line offers to sell me Viagara, when the only thing hardening is my arteries ? Posts: 2684 | From: London,Ontario, Canada | Registered: Feb 1999
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The flaming is correct (and a must do) but you may have to resort to using an intermediate film for good adhesion...I don't know wwwhy it just seems to hold better on a short term...besides it is tougher than H/P.
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I went through this awhile back when i bought a new dirt bike. The plastic is what they call a "low energy" plastic. I ended up buying stuff called "convex" vinyl from www.graphicms.com They sell this material to football helmet makers and people who make dirtbike graphics kits. I printed on it with the edge and then used an overlaminate to get it to 14mil thickness. Sticks real good.
-------------------- Bruce Evans Crown Graphics Chino, CA graphics@westcoach.net Posts: 911 | From: Chino, CA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Brian beat me to the PERMAGRIP suggestion. It's a great product for printing or EDGEing(?) that is made specifically for "adhesion to Low Surface Energy Plastics and Oily Metal Surfaces".
I wrapped a plastic Coleman Picnic Cooler in BUD/Dale Earnhardt Jr graphics for a NASCAR race last year and could have sold the thing for lotsa US$$$. You know how that pebbly plastic is for vinyl adhesion, and these graphics have held up great!
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We stock a Product called Convex High Bond. It is designed for this purpose, sticks to these low serface energy plastics! Conforms to these surfaces well.
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-------------------- Mark P Pfeil Hyatt's Graphic Supply 910 Main St Buffalo, NY 14202 800-234-9288 ext 628 mpfeil@hyatts.com Posts: 1 | From: buffalo new york | Registered: Apr 2003
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I place and replace vinyl on my 4 wheeler all the time as well as doing graphics jobs for guys at the track. I use oracal 651 series. I wipe 'em down with a bit of alcohol and apply dry. I use a heat gun to get around the bends and use a balled up cloth as a squeegee.
I've never had any trouble applying to fenders of any sort.
The fuel tanks do "gas out" vinyl will eventually fall off.
Steve
-------------------- Steve Aycock Designs 3489 Oswald St. Johns Island, SC zaor@warpdriveonline.com Posts: 124 | From: Charleston, SC | Registered: Feb 2003
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