I was wondering if any Edge users could post a basic, but effective, formula for taking Corel designs to the Edge; i.e., exporting from Corel to Omega import for the best results.
For instance, I created a graphic with gradiant filss(raster & vector combo)in Corel 9.0 and this is what I did (On first try, opening the Corel file in Omega caused problems, as one can imagine...).
So I:
1-I exported the graphic to a Corel CPT (RGB bitmap) at 600 dpi (created a large file) 2-Imported RGB-CPT back into Corel 9.0 3-Converted (bitmap) RGB-CPT to 32 bit CMYK-CPT 4-Placed my "outline" cut-out over the CPT 5-Re-opened CDR file in Omega.
I also understand that exporting the *original* CDR (raster/vector) comp to a Corel CMX is another effective-type file to open in Omega without the graphic appearing *awry*.
Note, I was preping the file for a friend who does my output on the Edge. He is somewhat knowledgeable, but virgin CDR's always seem to cause him problems on his end, so I concocked the above method as an alternate means to an end. Hopefully, when I send him files in the future, we can rely on one, effective method for graphic and color control from Corel of Edge.
I would be appreciative for any input or proven methods by Edge users on this board. I've checked 4edgetalk.com and found some info there. Thought I check here as well.
Thanks.
Fran
-------------------- Fran Maholland Pro Sign NJ Posts: 169 | From: Voorhees, New Jersey | Registered: Feb 2003
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In 1.56 you can add an option to integrate omega in Corel 9 from the application launcher in Corel you just select Corel to Composer, there are 4 options I believe, and voila!
The option is on the 1.56 cd rom and has to installed seperately
-------------------- Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA 508-865-7330
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To tell you the truth, it' not I who has Omega. It's my buddy who outputs the stuff for me and I'm not sure what version he's using. I suspect the Corel option is in it, but when he opens my Corel file (in the present case...some vector leaves with gradiant files;i.e., two objects leaf and veins)the veins became all broken and they were one object...granted, *grouped* in Corel. In any case, I do think he has the option in Omega to open Corel files and, methinks, it's version 2.
-------------------- Fran Maholland Pro Sign NJ Posts: 169 | From: Voorhees, New Jersey | Registered: Feb 2003
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Fran if you want send me the file and I can open it in my omega and tell you if that happens. There is a few different options such as corel to Composer foils, Corel to Composer vinyl, Corel to Composer, and Corel to Plot. They all do a few things differently and there are settings to choose in the middle of the conversion too.
If he has version 2 I'd say he got it pretty quick for it was just release last week I think. anyway I convert files for printing all the time with no problems.
-------------------- Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA 508-865-7330
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Thanks for the information about converting from Corel to Composer, I didn't realize there was an application on Omega 1.56 that would do this, what is the application called and is there any special instructions for installing it?
-------------------- Vicki Powell Here's Your Sign 16048 Hwy 96 Ordway, CO 81063 VickiPowell@centurytel.net www.heresyoursign.biz Posts: 43 | From: Ordway, CO | Registered: Apr 2003
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bob Rochon: [QB] Fran if you want send me the file and I can open it in my omega and tell you if that happens.
Will do Bob. Maybe tomoorw when I have a few minutes. I'll send a Jpeg in my email of what it should look like, then the original corel 9.0 file and then the re-bimapped Corel CPT file (per my original post). Of cousre, I'll send all in one mailing. Thanks.
BTW...we did ths once before with another file and composer gave my friend all kind of vectors for the gradiant fill. He hd to go in manually and assign colors to simulate what I had originally intended. Most people, I hear, say the Omega is BEAST of a proggie. Why not be able to Rip right from Corel or Flexi, I say! (Proprietary Gerber again!)
I'm just looking for the simplest method to import into composer given a Corel-generated graphic (where I do most of my designing). Truly, many would be amazed what I do in Corel, especially for cut vinyl...I do eveything there...even CAD-like drawings...and in most cases export ai to Flexi and cut. I like Corel's comp and editing tools much better than other proggies, plus I can do conceptual to producion right from there too.
Dangerous!
-------------------- Fran Maholland Pro Sign NJ Posts: 169 | From: Voorhees, New Jersey | Registered: Feb 2003
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quote:Originally posted by Bob Rochon: Fran if you want send me the file and I can open it in my omega and tell you if that happens. There is a few different options such as corel to Composer foils, Corel to Composer vinyl, Corel to Composer, and Corel to Plot. They all do a few things differently and there are settings to choose in the middle of the conversion too.
If he has version 2 I'd say he got it pretty quick for it was just release last week I think. anyway I convert files for printing all the time with no problems.
-------------------- Fran Maholland Pro Sign NJ Posts: 169 | From: Voorhees, New Jersey | Registered: Feb 2003
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Drop the Omega installation CD into your CD drive.
When the installation window comes up, click on the "MORE" button. There should be two or three addtional options pages to select from. If I recall correctly, the install button for installing the "Corel to Omega" button should be on the last page.
You must have Corel installed first before you install the "Corel to Omega" function.
Once that is done, reboot your computer. After rebooting, just go to Corel and open a file. On the Corel tool bar should be a big red "C" for the applications launcher. The "Corel to Omega" buttons should be there.
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For straight vector files, the CMX path works the best and CMX 5.0 comes into Omega a little better than does 6/7. For best color, use the Find and Replace feature of Corel to convert all vectors to RGB. Omega does a much better job of converting RGB to CMYK than it does of recalculating CMYK to CMYK (thermal printing tint percentages are different than inkjets).
For hybrid files with both bitmaps and vectors, we have the best results just exporting the entire piece as a maximum quality JPG. We then capture the vectors needed for a cut path and weld them, import into Omega and match it up with the JPG.
[ April 10, 2003, 09:41 AM: Message edited by: Fred Weiss ]
-------------------- Fred Weiss Allied Computer Graphics, Inc. 4620 Lake Worth Road Lake Worth, FL 33463 561 649-6300 allcompu@allcompu.com Posts: 427 | From: Lake Worth, Florida | Registered: Feb 2003
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Well, I've read over most of the threads to my original post thusfar and I really do appreciate all who contributed to this topic.
I still have to send the file to Bob for evaluation...which I'll do shortly.
One thing I noticed, though, is that the majority seem to suggest using the Omega utility for importing Corel graphics. In the alternative to that method (because I've read about the issues about version to version and install procedures, etc.), I was hoping that someone could provide a sure-fire method (series of definitive steps) that would ensure prints of reasonable facsimile to the intended design.
Bear in mind, again, that I have to prep the file for output by a friend and, based on our past interactions, everytime he opens one of my gradiant fill Corel file there are raster/vector issues and a lot of time is spent on his end tweaking the skewed interpolation from Coel to Omega.
Now, I haven't tried the CMX method yet, but can't I give my friend a high-res bitmap with the outline cut superimposed for conveniently outputting to the Edge? Again, this would be a Corel comp'd file, RGB.
OK, Bob, sending file soon for your evaluation. Am real interested in your feedback. Perhaps I'll just send the orginal, virgin Corel 9.0 file and you can best advise how to handle it from there...assume Corel and Omega versions are not compatable.
OK? Expect sometime this morning. Any other wholesale Edge-outputters in Southern New Jersey area?
Just thought I'd ask.
Thanks.
Franni
-------------------- Fran Maholland Pro Sign NJ Posts: 169 | From: Voorhees, New Jersey | Registered: Feb 2003
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Franni, I've tried all the ways and am even currently a beta tester for Omega. Trust me.... CMX 5 using RGB mode is the current best path for importing your vector files into Omega, gradients and all. AI and EPS both are having problems keeping the layers straight and the color translation isn't as good.
Treat your raster images as separate and use JPG maximum quality as the file format. Again, RGB will give richer and more faithful color results. It should take your outside source only a minute or two to position the cut path to the raster image.
Give your Edge source a combined raster and vector version as JPG to use as a reference for placement of hybrid files containing both image types.
You might also benefit from visiting the 4EdgeTalk forum where you can get questions answered by a variety of Edge users, distributors and Gerber technical people.
quote:Originally posted by Fred Weiss: ...CMX 5 using RGB mode is the current best path for importing your vector files into Omega, gradients and all.
Treat your raster images as separate and use JPG maximum quality as the file format.
Give your Edge source a combined raster and vector version as JPG to use as a reference for placement of hybrid files containing both image types.
OK, lemme get this straight...
1- Create in Corel, say, using gradiant fills 2- Export Corel 9.0 file to a hi-res JPEG, say, 600 dpi 3- Import JPEG back into Corel (For purpose #4) 4- Assign irregular outline cutpath around graphic 5- Export/or Save entire Corel file (JPEG & Cut path) to a Corel CMX (preferably) version 5. 6- Import Corel CMX into Omega adjust switches as required for import
Note: Current version of Omega is 1.54, however, we're looking to update as required to facilitate this Corel to Omega dilemma.
So, have I got?
-------------------- Fran Maholland Pro Sign NJ Posts: 169 | From: Voorhees, New Jersey | Registered: Feb 2003
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