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Laura Butler
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I have an old Ioline that has been sitting in the back of my shop because I couldn't get it running. I finally have it able to power up and do a self-test but now I don't know what software I can use to run it. I have tried CDraw 9 and AutoCAD but can't get it to move. Anyone know what to do?

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Laura Butler
Vision Graphics & Sign
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Attica, Mi 48412

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Laura Butler
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Doesn't anyone even run an Ioline LP3700 or 5000. The old 5000 cut at about 32 ips.

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Laura Butler
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Mike O'Neill
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Laura,

A lot of older plotters used HP-GL as their print language, try using the generic HP-GL driver that comes with windows, or download and try a driver for one of the older pen plotters from HP.

You can get the autocad driver from here

[ March 29, 2003, 09:29 AM: Message edited by: TransLab ]

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HPGL is the right answer. It's been a long time and I don't remember the details. Sorry. Vic G

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Laura Butler
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I believe I went to the winline site and they want $199.00 for their driver. I thought that was a little much.

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Laura Butler
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When you say I need that HP-GL driver. Does that mean that I need to find a printer that speaks the HP-GL language, then install it as a new printer. Then when I want to send a print to the plotter, do I select that printer instead of the LP 4000?

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Laura,
We are the manufacturers of SignTools for CorelDRAW. SignTools contains HP-GL drivers that will work with your Ioline LP-4000 plotter. Below is some infornmation.

SignTools Brief Description

The new version contains 30 specialty sign making tools and is compatible
with CorelDRAW 7, 8, 9, 10 and 11.

SignTools 3 is the first version to contains cutter plotter drivers to allow
users to cut directly from CorelDRAW. You can now choose from 150 popular
vinyl cutter models. The drivers are very accurate and it is not neccessary
to place a hairline outline on objects to get the plotter to cut. You can
design in full color, with or without outlines.

For the full list of cutters http://www.asigns.com/signtools_cutters.htm

SignTools 3 is now compatible with all language CorelDRAW's that use the
English character set. So if you are using French, German, Dutch or Spanish
CorelDRAW it will work. It is also compatible with Windows 98, ME, NT, 2000
and XP.

For more information on SignTools http://www.asigns.com/SignTools.htm

Cost of SignTools

The cost of SignTools is $385 Australian (approx. $225 US dollars). This
price includes shipping to anywhere in the world. Considering the power and
ease of use of SignTools, it is arguably the best valued sign making
software in the world.

Demo Version

We have a demo version of SignTools that you can download from our SignTools
Downloads Page (http://www.asigns.com/SignTools_Downloads.htm). The demo
version cotains 8 of the 30 tools of the full version and will give you an
idea of what the full version can do. Cutting is disabled on the demo as are
the other 22 tools.


Support

We have many support pages on our website to help you with any questions you
may have. Below are some links to support pages.

General Support Page - contains links to other support pages, as well as a
Support Enquiry Form http://www.asigns.com/signtools_support.htm
Step by Step Cutter Configuration Page
http://www.asigns.com/signtools_cutter_setup.htm
SignTools FAQ's Page - contains frequently asked questions and of course the
answers http://www.asigns.com/SignTools%20FAQ's.htm

If you have any further questions feel free to ask?

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Finally, below is some information on the Ioline LP3700 and LP400 models. This information can be used with any HP-GL Lower Left orientated driver.

There may be many other options you can set on your vector device to control your output. Consult your User Guide for information describing these and other settings. Depending on your specific requirements you may need to select different device settings or WinLINE settings.
These following settings place the LP3700/4000 into HP-GL mode with 0.025mm/step at power up.

1. Turn the plotter ON
2. ALT,UR,1 Select User 1
3. ALT,1 Enter programming mode
4. RESET Reset User 1 to factory defaults
5. ALT,6,6 Set HP-GL
6. ALT,7,5 Set 0.025mm Coordinate Addressing
(global setting, this affects all users)
7. ALT,UR,1,UR Load User 1 settings at Power up
8. ALT,ONLINE Save settings and return to normal mode


If a pen changer is not present, the IOLINE will stop for manual pen changing. Even if only one pen is used for a plot, and the pen is loaded, the IOLINE will stop twice for a manual reload. Once for the initial "SP" command to select the (first) pen and again for the SP command to return the (last) pen to the carousel. At each pause, plotting is resumed by pressing the ALT key.

Ignoring the pen changer means that single pen print jobs can proceed unattended. To ignore pen changes add the following between steps 6 and 7 above.

6a. ALT,LL,ALT,PEN DOWN,RESET disable the pen changer at power up


Note: LP 3700 model plotters with firmware versions lower than 1.05 may not have HP-GL language capability and may require a firmware upgrade. Check your firmware version by performing a self-test printout. Activate the self-test as follows:

1. Use arrow keys to locate the pen at the lower left corner of the sheet.
2. Press the ALT key.
3. Press the 7 key. This turns off the ALT indicator. The plotter draws a test plot and prints the version of currently installed firmware.

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I hope this helps.

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Andrew Gourvelos
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Laura Butler
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Andrew,
I have SignTools and couldn't get the plotter to move using it. But then I had a hard time understanding the LP4000 manual that I had just downloaded. So are saying that I have to foloow your 8 steps to get the plotter to receive the plot?

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Laura Butler
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Attica, Mi 48412

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Laura,..Ioline has a download program that will program the eprom(chip inside the plotter mainboard) to go online with a few minimal keypad entries every time you turn it on. It runs in dos so it is not all that user friendly but works great once you get it set up. Once the plotter has the online light on it is ready to recieve the plot. You need to be sure however that the serial port settings are correct and the proper port is assigned to the plotter driver in your software,..in this case signtools.

Another factor to consider is that alot of the old iolines could be set to read dmpl plotter language as well as hpgl. There are instructions how to switch from one language to the other in the manual.

As with most if not all hpgl plotters you will need a null modem cable not just a plain serial cable so the plotter can handshake with the pc. If your cable is just a plain serial cable a null modem adapter can be bought for under $20 at most electronic supply houses.

[ March 30, 2003, 11:18 AM: Message edited by: timi NC ]

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Mike O'Neill
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Yes Laura,

That's what it means. HP-GL stands for hewlett packard graphic language, they defined the standard for plotter 'print' language in the early days. The drivers are common, easily downloaded (free) from www.hp.com or you can use one of several that are included on windows installation cd. HPGL is still a standard almost every plotter recognises, I plot directly to a graphtec 4100 from coreldraw using their HPGL driver (available here) Graphtec Drivers I'm not 100% sure but I don't think there's anything proprietory about HPGL drivers, Just get one that supports the same width of media that your machine can use. Using drivers other than those designed for your machine may mean you may lose some features that are built into the machine (if any) that do not conform to basic HPGL, but the plot functions should work just fine.

Yes, you would print to the HPGL device instead of the LP 4000, you can rename to anything you want, just ensure that in the installation of the print driver that you have defined the printer port (serial, parallel, or other) as the one to which you have connected the LP 4000. For mucking about, I would suggest removing the blade until you know if its plotting properly or gibberish.

Once you have determined if the plotter is indeed alive and well you can consider whether or not you'll want to buy a 'bridging program' or tools program to make plotting more convenient. I've tried just about all of them and find that plotting directly from Corel is just as fast and convenient, I'm not saying that because of lack of budget. The learning curve is a little different. (Ask Grundy [Wink] ). .


Mike

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Laura Butler
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I have tried the HP-GL and even the HP draftmaster that the manual says to try. Nothing. I've had it hooked to my laptop with a IEEEE wire and even tried running it from Omega. Nothing. I have gotten a few other things to try from this post, when I get to the shop tomorrow.

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Laura Butler
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Attica, Mi 48412

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Laura,
SignTools installs a file called "Porttest.exe" into your Windows\System directory. Once you set your cutter to HP-GL, you can run this file to check your port and cable, as well as HP-GL compatibility. It should cut a small square with a diagonal line running up to the centre of the square.

Also, your serial cable must be a RS232-C cable.

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Andrew Gourvelos
A Signs
Sydney, NSW,
Australia

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