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I want to show my patriotism by supporting peaceful solutions to confict. I'm wondering if anybody has made any peace-related signs to sell or give away?
the 60s "chickenfoot in the circle" peace symbol seems kind of, well, dated, so i'm looking for fresh design inspiration.
also, i'm curious about how to promote peace signs -- i dont have a storefront, so i'm having trouble figuring out how to give or sell a patriotic peace sign.
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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Scooter: I like the thought of course. But now is not the time with bringing new symbols to life, I think, unless it is to execute something that a customer has brought to you for a special project they want to pay for. For ne designs on an old theme to become recognized as what they are supposed to be takes time. And that can't be done without words. The symbol is good as it is, the time for talking about peace is at hand, and the instant recognition of the symbol needs no words or introduction..
I don't know your situation, when it comes to promotion of your skills and products. Like what could you provide? Anything they want? Shirts / B -stickers / decals / yardsigns / flags/ car stuff - mags / specialized decals for local organizations / Could you afford to run an ad? Are you in San Francisco proper, then that would be expensive, and different than if you are outside. Look around for who is organizing marches, who is hanging up posters. Contact them and ask them if you could be of service in executing some of their ideas.
Easy for me to say, I know. Since I don't know your setup, I may not be too big on useful ideas here, butI did want to respond to your question.
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Me again! I like it very much, as I posted my other stuff, there was your design!! I think it's a bit top heavy, just move the word down a bit for balance and you've got a wonderful sign. Now how to move them? See my other post, I have no knowledge of what's available to you. Run a picture of it, hang a picture of it with you phone number in local hangouts of ALL kinds. Those who are with you in this are legion and everywhere. Good luck
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signslimited@triad.rr.com Posts: 1244 | From: Winston-Salem, NC USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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burn a screen, go to a rally with some plastisol ink & people will tearin' there shirts off for a custom print. Set up by power & bring a flash drying unit. (maybe they could even pull the squeegee themself)
Or for an even more low-tech idea, that good design would offset any low-techness... spray paint and a couple of killer stencils (excuse the expression) & you will paint the town for almost no cost & you will have a lot of fun, (or at least semi-sober satisfaction in getting your opinions heard & helping others to do the same)
In this high tech world, it helps to remember low-tech ways of doing things sometimes.
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I like your design a lot. Maybe license plates would look good. Have you ever tried screen printing with two different colored inks at once? You get great effects, everyone a little bit different. Just place the ink next to the other and screen away, until you don't like the color mix no more. Something for fun projects...
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thanks for the ideas so far. yes, i was planning to screen print these, using a split fountain.
i think somebody makes red/blue fade vinyl, but i don't know if it would be economical for this project. if it is, then i could use that on white coroplast.
i like the license plate idea, but in CA we have to have front and back plates, so i don't think printed plates would do well.
i like the stencil and spray idea -- not sure if i have anything to cut a stencil from. i wonder if coroplast would work?
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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Is there a columnist in a local paper that would be in agreement with you? This is exactly what I wanted badly to do before the war started, but now I'm thinking we're commited, get it over, come home. Jim.
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Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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Just thought i'd mention what's working so far -- I posted a free notice on Craigs List ( a free community web bulletin board, found in many cities) and have received a few requests. The listing was picked up by a reporter for the SF Chronical, the largest newspaper in the region, who called and asked me a few questions. so, maybe i'll get some real publicity after all.
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coroplast stencil may work, but may gather paint in flutes that may start to run. also wouldn't flex over irregular surfaces. something like Borco material used to cover drafting table surfaces, or sandblast mask, or magnetic material may be better. even a mylar or acetate type of plastic.
I did a pretty cool one out of cardboard for "RadioActivist" a punk band project I came up with in Albuquerque in 1990 it had simple radio signal waves emanating from 2 sides of the old triangular bomb shelter logo & the name through the middle with an Anarchy style "A" where it intersected the radioactive symbol.
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I use magnetic material all the time, for stenciling on boxcars. I regret to mention it, as it seems "beneath" a sign guy, also I'm pretty sure one of the conspiritors in the Lincoln assasination was a boxcar stenciler, Ha! On bigger letters, save lots of time cutting it with scissors. Don't know the long term effects on the scissors, but hey you can't have everything! Jim. P.S. the assasination's not funny, just the people i get associated with!
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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there is a book fair this weekend (Bay Area Anarchist Book Fair) that I might make a stencil and go to. Maybe people will have bags or something we could stencil. (and afterwards i'll give it to somebody else who wants to run around with a stencil -- that's not my style. i don't want to spray my message on things without people's permission, that doesn't seem respectful).
i'm really jazzed about this whole project though, and thanks again for the ideas and feedback.
(PS: I only got one unsupportive email, from somebody who told me "Now is NOT the time to be pushing your peace signs in or (sic) face.")
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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If I keep posting replies here, I'll need to get a trench coat, dark sunglasses, and the rest of the incognito disguise stuff. You see, I'm THE ultra right wing, mean spirited, hate filled, homophobic, anti abort, NRA, religious fanatic, backwoods fundementalist. BUT I'm repulsed at going along with the party line, without induction/deduction at the individual level. I keep remembering things about stencils: if your finished product doesn't have much overspray, or you apply the paint in another way, then you can take a little brush, and paint that's the same color, and paint over the "bridges" that held the stencil together. this makes it hard to tell it was made with a stencil. It takes very little time. There's a tool that's sold at the art store for cutting/burning stencils in thin plastic sheeting. It very much resembles a soldering tool, but has a thinner tip. Works real well on thin stuff, but buy your material in flat sheets, not on a roll. This'll keep the parts of the letters or art from curling in. This posting isn't just about peace signs, it's about a sign person having a voice. If you havn't seen the article in SC about Parsons' work on a political campain, you'll love it. sincerly, agent Jim.
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
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work has been dead slow, so i was happy to have a "fun" project to spend my day on.
i screen-printed 50 signs today using the "split fountain" (two colors at once)-- they look great (mostly... a few were dogs). i used 6-ply "political board" and it took the ink very nicely. never used it before, but now i like it.
i think i'm going to print just some "blue-to-red" backgrounds. (if i print them, i can print my company logo at the same time, so its easier than using two colors on rollers). Then i can hand-letter misc. signs, as needed, with Lettering White 1-Shot.. The white against the red-2-blue looks really sharp.
does anybody have any tips on printing the two color fades? i was wondering if it would work better if i put some clear between the two colors, to sort of soften the mix. i noticed that some of them got sort of "muddy" in the middle. (ie, a whole lot of dark purple middle, with just a little red and blue on the edges).
finally, i'll have to order up some thin Celtec or Sintra and cut some stencils.
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If you got the time to kill, print a red fade to white from burning a gradient halftone screen. then flip the signs after dry (some poster ink drys fast enough to charge right into second print)& print the blue fade from the same screen. Otherwise, like Lotti said you can only go till the mix looks bad before cleaning up the screen, & I think 50 is too many to expect there.
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