posted
Before things get out of hand in the days to come, let's make a deal...
politics, sexual preference & religion are three things that have no business on this board. I for one know how these three subjects can screw things up, and get otherwise civil people into a world of swirl.
So all you bible thumpin' pinko fags stick to the signmakin' talk, ya hear?
posted
Wonder what category I fit into!!. All signwriters that I ever employed fit into a mould- religious fanatics, Drunks or sex maniacs. I told the wife I must be one of the only normal ones around.
-------------------- Drane Signs Sunshine Coast Nambour, Qld. dranesigns@bigpond.com Downunder "To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a computer" Posts: 965 | From: Nambour, Qld. Australia | Registered: Nov 1998
| IP: Logged |
posted
I always scream "Oh God" while having sex with a politician...
-------------------- Terry Baird Baird Signs 3484 West Lake Rd. Canandaigua, NY 14424 Posts: 790 | From: Canandaigua, New York | Registered: Dec 2002
| IP: Logged |
posted
Yeah Politics topics usually turn bad. Yes indeed. But...the 'let's be happy skippity skip joy joy "think positive"....is um well let's face it....a bit strange over and over again. The 'I am having a schit day and just want to vent' posts are fine. I like it when people keep it real. Whatever that may be. If you are having a bad day so what. It will get better. But the just 'think positive' crap is just that. I mean....we all seem to be positive thinkers....but schit happens sometimes and it aint always peaches and cream. Now I am going to go watch Dr. Phil and Opera and have a spot o tea and think positively positve.
Posts: 3729 | From: Seattle | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged |
posted
Awwww Roy honey.....turn on Dr. Phil. Have a spot o tea. Or better yet, a white russian. Now that is positive stuff!
Posts: 3729 | From: Seattle | Registered: Sep 1999
| IP: Logged |
posted
No deal, Robb. For example, it was ok for Steve to let Dave's post on politics run for so long, because that issue was on everyone's mind. But I agree that we should try and focus on signmaking more than on OT posts, because that's what this board is here for. However, there's no need for more rules and censorship. Just my two cents (1.25 cents US)
posted
Robb, If people had no interest in those topics, the post would not get any responses. Frankly, I learned A LOT and had A LOT MORE QUESTIONS after seeing the various positions on the recent WAR thread. I WANT to discuss with my peers, the things that affect our lives. (also, I don't think anyone at my church would know what I was talking about if I tried to launch the cast vs. calendared debate.)
I agree that Steve should monitor for abuses and discussion should be civil, but if a person doesn't like those kinds of threads they should simply stay out of them. If NO ONE LIKES THEM they will disappear. If a thread turns ugly, we owe it to ourselves to boycott the particular thread - that is called self restraint.
posted
well i guess you dont want to hear from us commie-pinko, antiwar, peace, love and rock & roll, unpatriotic, low lifes....HUH?
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
| IP: Logged |
posted
The trouble with being an atheist is we have nobody to talk to during sex - politicians or otherwise. There we are at our funerals - all dressed up and nowhere to go.
Gee, Cheryl's got me bummed out, now. I'm gonna go eat worms.
Posts: 1859 | From: / | Registered: Nov 1998
| IP: Logged |
posted
I've been thinking ALOT about this lately. I'm not sure I would want to become a resident of someplace that didn't allow such discussion. People ought to be able to say what they need to, and if they don't know what they're talking about, let them lose a chunk of "der popo" in the insuing conversation. This subject is VERY important to me, as I'm an AMERICAN. Politics and religion are inseperable from every part of my life, including work, which of course is a big part of it. I think a few examples are in order: I'm raising a large family on a single income, without debt. Debt blinds people to the real condition of the economy. The average large grocery chain operates on a 2% or less profit margin. If you're paying alot in interest, does the bank "own" you? What if you sent some of that money to charity? Believe me, a little goes a long way. What has this got to do with signs? Alot. If you're wondering why I'm cheap-guy #2, (I guess Lenny is #1) it's because I'm trying to live debt free. It means high mileage equipment,buggin' people with questions about a 4-b, Corel 4, and allways being on my toes.But it's worth it, to LIVE BY YOUR CONVICTIONS. Everybody's got some, I hope. As far as religion goes, sin comes in two forms, commision, and ommision. If I didn't give credit where it's due for the big turning points in my life, that would be sin. Take a look at the posts I've made, and you'll see I'mm very careful about this. Sometimes i think that if my religion is so worthwhile, people ought to be standing in line to get in. Actually, there's a four letter word called "self" that complicates that statement, but it's like the saint from old said, "Preach allways, and if necessary, use words." I'll keep these things to a minimun, but if it's not welcome at all, I'll depart, and let this site go the way of CB radio. That's a big ten four, good buddy. MOST sincerly, Jim.
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
| IP: Logged |
posted
Hey James... I agree with you. Should we fragment and segregate everything into little boxes just for the comfort and convenience minded who might get "offended"? Offense has an element of choice in it. And I choose to let Steve & Barb run Letterville. If someone posts something inappropriate (and I've hung around here off and on for several years) they seem to handle it well. Personally, I got rid of the boxes a long time ago... ~Nancie
-------------------- Nancie W. Phillips White Dove Painting Studio 74 Dacula Road, Dacula, GA 30019 678-887-3339
posted
Considering we are at the eve of war and a little uptight – there is obviously a need to talk about calendered versus cast. We stay on topic that way, and it’s one way to “talk around” our differences.
I like that we are not just whooppin’ butt and that we are even getting a bit cosmopolitan - even multi-lingual - in our commentary.
I see that Si is close to spelling the French word “sujet” correctly, and that James has the German “der Popo” right on the Kiester.
As is seems, as far as this war goes, the die is “cast”.
I for one will lay low while we attack and bomb a country with more than 50 % children under 15. I will support our troops. I will pray for them to come home.
-------------------- Leaper of Tall buildings.. If you find my posts divisive or otherwise snarky please ignore them. If you do not know how then PM me about it and I will demonstrate. Posts: 5274 | From: Im a nowhere man | Registered: Jul 2001
| IP: Logged |
-------------------- Drane Signs Sunshine Coast Nambour, Qld. dranesigns@bigpond.com Downunder "To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a computer" Posts: 965 | From: Nambour, Qld. Australia | Registered: Nov 1998
| IP: Logged |
posted
Welcome to Letterville Jim. Did you actually read the Laws Of Letterville before agreeing with them?
In Letterville we are Letterheads first. We strive to put aside all the political, religious and other things that divide us. This is our online version of a live Letterhead Meet and we reserve the right to set the rules.
I understand that everyone who visits this website will not agree with our policy, and that's ok. We're not interested in attracting everyone involved in the sign business. Our main interest is promoting The Letterhead Philosopy of sharing and preserving the best of our craft. That's not easy to do when folks are preoccupied with tearing each other apart over topics that have nothing to do with Letterville.
There has to be at least one post on the BB that merits more comment than this post. It's almost time to lock or delete this topic.
-------------------- Steve Shortreed 144 Hill St., E. Fergus, Ontario Canada N1M 1G9 519-787-2673
posted
It seems to me the gulf war ended on the premise that the UN would see to the disarmament of Iraq. The deal was they would disarm and allow weapons inspectors into the country. Not two years later, the weapons inspectors had bullets whistling over their heads and Hussein kicked them out of the country. He then braced himself for UN and US repercussions. The UN and our sissy President chose to do nothing. This is a war on Terrorism that is now being taken into Iraq. It is the same war that was taken into Afghanistan, and will be taken anywhere needed in the future. To attribute the President's actions in any other manner is short-sighted and self-centered. I'm behind our fighting men & women all-the-way. A couple people are saying that our President is violating the Constitution, that is a very serious charge. Would you guy's tell us what and where in the Constitution could verify your claim? The part that comes to mind for me is that the President takes an oath to defend the US against all enemies. If you are not willing to support our President and Government in time of war that could be interpreted as supporting our enemies then you may be in violation of the Constitution. I thought Congress gave the president the right to wage war on Terrorism after 9/11. I believe G.W. is well within his rights! I can think of several pre-emptive strikes in the last 30 years. Granada, Panama, Haiti, Bosnia, just to name a few. Even the great JFK launched a pre-emptive attack on Cuba remember the bay of pigs.
I find it disturbing that the Democrats were the first to criticize G.W. after 9/11 about the lack of preparedness to ward off a terrorist's attack and now they are blasting him for a preemptive strike against a dictator who supports terrorism, hates the U.S. and has the means to kill hundreds of thousands of innocent US citizens. Also, it was the liberals who raised hell when we were marching thru the Iraqi army like butter heading toward Bagdad because we might kill too many and lose a few more troops in the process. Thus the agreement that Saddam has violated for the last 12 years. I hear the fat lady warming up. I'm 110% behind Bush, our government, and most of all our troops. God's speed and come home safe! As for the UN I say if you want to pass a resolution and enforce it just try doing it with out the USA and see how far you get without the USA's Might The UN is a joke every time they want to enforce some rule or resolution The USA's military does it for them I for one don't think we need them they need the USA. Saddam Hussein was a part of 9-11. Although Bin Laden is the main culprit, facts show that there are Al Queda ties deep within Iraq. The most damning of those is the fact that Mohammed Atta, pilot of the first plane to hit the towers, lived and trained in Iraq and it's government sponsored and funded terrorist camps. Mohammed Atta did in fact live and train in the United States, that is a fact. It is however a fact as well that Atta did live in both Germany AND Iraq. In Iraq, he had ties to several terrorist organizations within the country, AL Queda included. So say what you will, Al Queda is alive and well in Iraq, (until 7:01 pm tonight that is) funded partially by Saddam Hussein and the money he should have been spending for food and medicine for the Iraqi people.
-------------------- Si Allen #562 La Mirada, CA. USA
(714) 521-4810
si.allen on Skype
siallen@dslextreme.com
"SignPainters do It with Longer Strokes!"
Never mess with your profile while in a drunken stupor!!!
Brushasaurus on Chat Posts: 8831 | From: La Mirada, CA, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
| IP: Logged |
This subject, being one which affects nearly every signmaker in the world to a greater or lesser degree, is certainly appropriate and worthy of our discussion.
Keeping the conversation civil and respectful should be reason enough to let such a thread continue.
-------------------- Steve Purcell Purcell Woodcarving & Signmaking Cape Cod, MA
************************** Intelligent Design Is No Accident Posts: 900 | From: Cape Cod, MA | Registered: Oct 1999
| IP: Logged |
posted
While I agree 100% with Si...I don't believe this post needs to be deleted. What needs to happen now is to realize that this is going to happen,and nothing anyone says here is going to change that. Its time to stop thinking that the pacifist opinion is the only opinion or the only ones that can think things thru are those who are against it. What matters now is that you realize that there are 200-300K troops out there that voluntarily chose to do what they are doing right at this very moment...they were not sent there against their will nor are they ashamed to be there. This is what they have chosen to do with their lives,even as reserves and they don't care that you don't agree....all they want is your support..just as most here choose to inflate themselves just b/c they can make a decent looking sign and feel they deserve Xamt of $$ as compensation,they deserve your support for them right now. They are part of the very few in this country that will stand up,be counted and take a stand for something...they've chosen the hard way out....action is always harder than inaction...the easy way is to sit behind a keyboard and knock the president,the country,the military and anyone else you can think of b/c you believe the only one with the ability to think things thru is you. The funny thing is almost none of those people give one damn about whats being said,they just know that there's a job to be done and someone has to do it....so they go,and honestly thats not something they expect you to understand...they just want you to respect that decision,like you want them to respect showing the error of their artistic ways if they come in to buy a sign with their own sketch. So for once,put aside all the childish BS about who's right and who's wrong and take just 1 minute to think about 1 person in uniform over there and remember they have the courage to do what 90% of people don't, especially knowing the outcome....they volunteered.
-------------------- Gavin Chachere Plotter in the garage,New Orleans La.
"Sgts Shugart and Gordon again request permission to rope down to crash site two" Posts: 1223 | From: new orleans.la. | Registered: Mar 2000
| IP: Logged |
posted
Si and Gavin have covered this post extremely well.
-------------------- Drane Signs Sunshine Coast Nambour, Qld. dranesigns@bigpond.com Downunder "To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a computer" Posts: 965 | From: Nambour, Qld. Australia | Registered: Nov 1998
| IP: Logged |
posted
As long as we're all talking about signs, I'll tell you a true story. It happened about 20 years ago, in Orangevale, CA. (near Sacramento). A customer I was doing some windows for started telling me how zoning enforcement was on his case about his A-frame sign, which was like all the other A-frame signs by the road. They finnaly cut him some slack when he informed them they were practicing "selective enforcement". True story. Jim.
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
| IP: Logged |
posted
I was on a anti zoning committee years ago working for the local chamber of commerce. We finally got the mayor and his councillors to come to a meeting. One shop owner promised to paint his premises green with purple dots and only use radio advertising when the "selective enforcement" fell right apart and they went back to the drawing board and nothing has happened since, and still nobody has been killed by falling signs which the council assured us was the only reason signs needed to be registered with a hefty fee applicable.
-------------------- Drane Signs Sunshine Coast Nambour, Qld. dranesigns@bigpond.com Downunder "To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a computer" Posts: 965 | From: Nambour, Qld. Australia | Registered: Nov 1998
| IP: Logged |
posted
To Dave; it's a true story, but I was being allegorical and sarcastic. TO STEVE S.:I'm sorry if I seem devisive. It's almost half after midnight, I'm lying in bed pondering what you said. I think that once again, I've been a poor comunicator. If my comment about "lose a chunk of der popo" was interpreted as justification of "tearing people apart", it certainly wasn't meant that way. I was trying to say let people's ideas be disproven swiftly.I'm a wanna-be philosopher. In the study of logic, there is a falacy known as ad hominum abusive. It's where one leaves the subject at hand, and goes "to the man",calling him names,or whatever. I certainly don't want to do that. I was raised with violence, I'm more familiar with it than a person ought to be. Karl VonClausovitz said: "War is the continuation of politics by another means. I think a guy named Richard Weaver wrote a book called "Ideas have consequences". Jesus said something like: "As a man thinks in his heart, so is he". What I'm getting at is that I try to deal with IDEAS before they manifest themselves as ugly things like war, tyranny, etc. I have some really strong words I'd like to say about war, but maybe tomorrow. I'm emotionally drained. Sincerly, Jim.
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
| IP: Logged |
posted
well we are remembering reasons for war...lets "remember the maine", "PEARL HARBOR", "iwo jima", bataan, coregador, "the bulge","DA NANG 1968, and the greatest loss of life THE ATOM BOMB on JAPAN...2 OF EM. these were JUST WARS......and never were we the "invaders" my 2 cents.
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
| IP: Logged |
![[Eek!]](eek.gif)
![[Mad]](mad.gif)
![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
![[Wink]](wink.gif)
![[Confused]](confused.gif)
![[Cool]](cool.gif)
![[Big Grin]](biggrin.gif)
Printer-friendly view of this topic