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Andrew Duncan
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We normally don't do banners, but have a customer that wants one that will hang across a street...it could be upwards of 4 feet wide by 40 feet long...
What thickness banner would you recommend for that size and being outdoors (in the Arizona sun and wind)?
What type of material and thickness would you recommend?
She also wants the dates to be removable...what kind of vinyl would you recommend that you can remove from the banner and how should this be done?
I see that a lot of companies have different seam styles..what kind of seam would be best for this application?
What do you charge retail (by square foot) for this approximate size? For example, what would be the price for vinyl lettering on one side only and what would be the price for lettering on both sides?
Any information that you have, including anything that I'm not thinking of for this type of application..please let me know.
Thanks for your time.
~Andrew

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Andrew,

Call Creative Banner Assemblies in Brooklyn Center, Minnesota. Great people, great advice, great service at a fair price. Can't ask for more...

Have a great one!

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BTT.... For anymore replies..What would you retail a 18 oz. banner of this size solvent printed on both sides...and how do you arrive at this price...(i.e sq. ft. price)

~Andrew

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If you have never done a banner of this size....DON'T!!!!

My advice is to have it done by someone, or company, that is equipped to do it right!

I have done many banners in my time, BUT, when it comes to one this big, I call:

http://www.bannerland.com

call them on their 800 number and give them your specifications, have them make it for you, mark it up and deliver it!

I am not afilliated with Terry, but have used him many times in the past...good guy to deal with!

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absolutly si !

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I'm not going to make it....was just wondering what i should charge...what the market rate is...so i charge a fair price..

~Andrew

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Andrew...Give this a lot of thought before you proceed.

Make sure you have plenty of insurance.

Make sure the "city" allows such banners.

Above all else make sure you have a release of liability from your customer.

Our town used to have "cross street" banners and requested on more than one occassion that we provide them...I refused... not wanting to accept the liability when they wouldn't provide a release of liability...shortly after a wind storm hit and broke the 6" top, utility pole about 15 feet up and narrowly missing passing vehicles. After that the city no longer allows that type of banner.

Think of it this way...a banner that size is like a spinnaker...problem is the boat is mother earth...somethings gotta give.

Yo've never seen anything as scary as a 30 or 40' banner ocillating up and down10 or 20 feet in a 30 mile an hour wind storm.

Still want to do it? Good luck!

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Hiya Andrew,
I would follow the others advice and not go there. I really don't think that there's a banner material made or poles that are strong enough to take on the extremes something that size would be subjected to.
I would scale back the size and consider a mesh type banner material if you're considering digital printing. But, I have no experience with this type of material so I really shouldn't be making those suggestions. Check around, maybe you can find a manufacturer in your area with some experience.
The largest "across the street" type banner I would do is about half that size and all vinyl.
However, If I had all the disclaimers signed & notarized, I probably charge around $1600 for a basic 1 color design that the client provided. That's about $5 a square foot for the first side 70% more for the second side plus an oops factor to cover any surprises with shipping, etc.
Additional colors, design time and anything else would be an additional charge.
If it was a digital print, I'd sub it out to a qualified manufacturer, double all my costs and go from there.
I wouldn't even considering installing something like this myself.

Good luck,

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