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Hiya Heads, I'm going to be working from home(after hours) and painting small HDU signs for friends & family. I figure if I start now I'll have them ready as Christmas presents for this upcoming holiday season. Although I would like to stick with 1 Shot, I just don't want to risk having the v.o.c.s around in my basement. So, I'm looking for recommendations for latex primers and paints. Also, what brand and sizes of brushes would be good for starters since I haven't purchased a brush in at least 5 years. Any other input would also be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Checkers
-------------------- a.k.a. Brian Born www.CheckersCustom.com Harrisburg, Pa Work Smart, Play Hard Posts: 3775 | From: Harrisburg, Pa. U.S.A. | Registered: Nov 1998
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Remember, natural bristles/hairs will probably get REAL floppy/droopy while working in water based paint. Experiment with synthetics or stiffer bristles.
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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Checkers,(may I call you Checkers lol) let me rant on ONCE AGAIN about the Great Brushes .... John Hannukaine series by Mack. Green handle, silver round ferrule. ...quoted from the Canadian Signcrafters catalogue, p.81:
The Hannukaine Quill: *Nice Edge *Lotsa Snap *Longer Life *Oil & Water Media *Priced Right *100% Fat Free
Available in 6 sizes: xxs Similar to a size #1 graduated quill xs " #2 " s " #4 " m " #6 " l " #8 " xl " #10 "
Buy the Full Set & save $$$
I've used them for lettering on painted cement block with 1 shot, with latex on plywood and walls, they don't "splay" out when going around curves. Tracks like it's on a rail.
The Nocturna Series are flats, a much softer hair, I've used them in latex, acrylic vinil(Deka)with good results, where a flat is needed.
**See the Portfolio page of some of my stuff, the menu board, 1 shot on varnished panel, used 3 sizes of these brushes, smallest lettering is 5/16" They are like paint writing sticks. I like'em, you will too. I have a set for oil, set for latex, and last week ordered 2 more sets....just because!!
btw, I get no $$$ for this rant. You can try Mack Brushes direct, also Canadian Signcrafters... 1-800-663-9753
That's all I have to say about that...
John Lennig / SignRider
-------------------- John Lennig / Big Top Sign Arts 5668 Ewart Street, Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada bigtopya@hotmail.com 604.451.0006 Posts: 2184 | From: Burnaby, British Columbia,Canada | Registered: Nov 2001
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I use the white haired synthetic brushes with the green handles that you can get in art supply stores.I have three or four from about 1`/4 in to 3/8 inch. Paintwise, I have been priming with Coastal WB88, then 2 coats of Benjamin Moore flat latex, followed by one or two coats of 1-shot on the letters. You might prefer a semi- gloss, or even gloss for the backgrounds, but I've been using the flat....I just plain like the way it looks. By the way, I have a plastic Rubbermaid toolbox that I keep water in, and I keep all my water=based brushes in there. They never dry out, and the lid, when snapped down, keeps the water from evaporating, or sloshing around in the truck. Theres nothing in that toolbox but brushes and water.
-------------------- Jeff Ogden 8727 NE 68 Terr. Gainesville FL, 32609 Posts: 2138 | From: 8827 NE 68 Terr Gainesville Fl 32609 | Registered: Aug 2002
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Hey Checkers, I've been thinking, how can you be a bonehead painter without some oil based pans of caint (whatever) lying around? It's all in the mindset. When my wife commmented on the appearance of the chest freezer on the porch, I told her Honey, I'll paint a sign on it. Then it will look great. Remember, SIGNS LOOK GOOD. You've got to have this at the core of your thinking: SIGNS LOOK GOOD. Now I got to git 'er lernt about paint smells. Sincerly, Jim. P.S. Try to figure out how much of this is joking and how much isn't.
-------------------- James Donahue Donahue Sign Arts 1851 E. Union Valley Rd. Seymour TN. (865) 577-3365 brushman@nxs.net
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what's for lunch, Benjamin Franklin Posts: 2057 | From: 1033 W. Union Valley Rd. | Registered: Feb 2003
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Thanks for the input guys. I really don't want to experiment with different brushes because I'm starting out in the hole on this one and going down hill from there. Remember, these are just for friends, family and therapy - not for profit. But, I want to do them right the first time. I went the way of the art store, but, trying to get answers out of these people was worse than pulling teeth! James, to be honest, I like the smell of 1 Shot in the morning. It's smells like work is getting done. The problem really isn't the paint. It's the thinners & other flammable products associated with the 1 shot. They don't mix well with the furnace. And John, you know the old saying, "...just don't call me late for dinner". Anyone else want to add their 2 cents? I'm hoping to make the purchase sometime next week.
Cheers,
Checkers
-------------------- a.k.a. Brian Born www.CheckersCustom.com Harrisburg, Pa Work Smart, Play Hard Posts: 3775 | From: Harrisburg, Pa. U.S.A. | Registered: Nov 1998
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OK Brian, dinner is over, no food till morning. Bad , Bad, signman!!!
If I may re-rant.... Check out Mack Brush Co. / Hannukaine brushes, you won't find a better brush for latex... they're 40.00 cdn.(per set of 6) up here, so you'll probably pay 1.2 bucks... Art Stores, nice.... for some stuff, you wanta letter like a pro with latex (or oil, for that matter, don't get me started!!!!)) I just got in a double set of Black sable soft fitches from Mack, Smokin' brushes, workin on a rough surface today, they RULED!!!
Do I like brushes?????
John Lennig / SignRider / Playin' with the Hairs
-------------------- John Lennig / Big Top Sign Arts 5668 Ewart Street, Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada bigtopya@hotmail.com 604.451.0006 Posts: 2184 | From: Burnaby, British Columbia,Canada | Registered: Nov 2001
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"If I may re-rant.... Check out Mack Brush Co./ Hannukaine brushes, you won't find a better brush for latex..." ------------------- Can you post a URL? Mack and Hannukaine are names that mean high quality in brush work. If they're ready to tackle latex, I'm ready to read about it. Thanks.
.. they're 40.00 cdn.(per set of 6) up here, so you'll probably pay 1.2 bucks... Art Stores, nice.... for some stuff, you wanta letter like a pro with latex (or oil, for that matter, don't get me started!!!!)) I just got in a double set of Black sable soft fitches from Mack, Smokin' brushes, workin on a rough surface today, they RULED!!!
Do I like brushes?????
-------------------- Bruce Williams Lexington KY Posts: 945 | From: Lexington, KY, USA | Registered: Mar 1999
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1.800.663.9753 Great People, Sign People. btw, they can get all the Mack stuff and get it to Canadian customers....no need to go thru Brokers, etc.
"Hairs in a Ferrule, Monkeys in a Barrel....it's all Fun To Me!!"
John Lennig / SignRider
-------------------- John Lennig / Big Top Sign Arts 5668 Ewart Street, Burnaby, British Columbia, Canada bigtopya@hotmail.com 604.451.0006 Posts: 2184 | From: Burnaby, British Columbia,Canada | Registered: Nov 2001
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