I was pouncing something last night for my panel. I always figured you were supposed to pull it. But I found myself drifting off my lines. I tried pushing the wheel and stayed on the lines better, but it was a little awkward.
Is there a right or wrong way to do it? Or is it whatever works for you?
Stupid question? Maybe. Just wondering how everyone else does it.
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I just grabbed my pounce wheel and pulled it. I seems that when I pull it, I hold it with the bottom curve held slightly down. I pull it toward my body. When I tried it the other way, didn't seem to work as well. And it was the same if I held it with the curve up. So for me, it's curve down, pull toward the body. At least this is the way I have been doing it since 1985.
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I find that if you using a custon under the paper pattern...IE. Cardboard,Corex or Self Healing mats then it really doesn't matter. Pull or Push!
Are you using the large spoke wheel or the smaller one?
Better yet is the "Electro Pounce" with a metal medium. Fine lines as steady as your hand is!
Remember never to use a Steel Ruler with this..... OUCH!!!!!!!!!!!
It does bite back!
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Letting Your Imagination Run Wild! Posts: 4327 | From: Lower Sackville, Nova Scotia, Canada | Registered: Jan 2000
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Terry, I have completely worn out an Electro Pounce...however when I used a wheel, I Pulled....BTW I still have the first Pounce Wheel that I bought back in 1956....It has a wood handle and Brass wheel holder.... Somewhay of an Antique Now...........he he he Shep'
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Mine has a swivel-head on it which makes it nice when pulling it around intricate curves. You can also lock it down so that it won't swivel. I suppose you could push it then.
I have a swivel-head x-acto knife which is also great for cutting intricate details in sandblast stencils.
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isn't it amazing the topics that are coming up from this panel swap! hahaha. headaches, pounce wheels, paint, brushes......I'm with ya there people. My wife just went running out of the shop because of the "one shot fumes". (i may be on to something here. hehe) I don't notice them much, but we'll see if I get a migrain like I used to before the dreaded "vinyl cutter". My brushes were so bad I barely pulled enough of them out of the ruins to use. Gee they were clean and oiled 6 years ago! And my pounce wheels............uh........welll............uh..........what DID I do with them. I do think I pulled them though, and maybe pushed from time to time. I do know I used to use a sheet of drywall under the pattern and it was just firm enough to feel solid, but not so soft you got huge holes. And where did that &()*%^ mahl stick go..............dang it!
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Mine has a swivel-head, like Mike's, you can't really push it, and I've never seen anybody using it that way. But then again, I only use it for big stuff, like wall lettering, ice painting, etc. If it's a smaller design I always prefer carbon paper. White is nicer than black, if the background allows, because it wipes off easily.
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Best all time perferating pad I've ever found is a piece of Naugahide...it's cheap...rolls up out of the way ...and tracks superbly.
I even keep one rolled up in the truck (behined the seat) in case I need it on a job...I didcovered this quite by accident one time when i was out on a job and had to pounce a pattern I had nothing with me so I tried the truck seat...it was so good thats all I've used now for about 25 years.
"Werks fer me it'll werk fer you"
As long as the head swivels just hold it like a pencil and draw on.
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In the shop I always use an old piece of sho card under patterns, and in my kit is a rolled up square of felt.
As far as the push-pull question, I do both. If it's a long line, pulling is much faster. If it involves small letters and tight curves, pushing has more control. The powder goes through the same. Remember when we had those bumps on our first digit of the middle finger?
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The best thing you can do for yourself is get an electric pounce. If you ever have a lot of pouncing to do it can be done a lot quicker and you never have to sand the back of the paper.
Back over 40 years ago I had to pounce 48 state flags and 39 foreign flags, all about 8" x 12". This left me with a very sore wrist. This can't happen with the electric pounce.
-------------------- Bill Riedel Riedel Sign Co., Inc. 15 Warren Street Little Ferry, N.J. 07643 billsr@riedelsignco.com Posts: 2953 | From: Little Ferry, New Jersey, USA | Registered: Feb 1999
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What I do has not shown up. I no longer have the strength in my right hand to pounce in one motion, be that push or pull. Another of the occupational decrepidations. Though I actually never did in in one stroke, what I do is make light feathery back and forth strokes about an inch long. For some reason, practice probably, it follows the layout lines perfectly and with good control, and needs no sanding because the perforations are more dense.
I do though also have an electro pounce wheel, and I use that for larger patterns, or patterns I get paid for by others where the strokes would look sort of sloppy. With that I push or pull according to the shape of the letter or curve in a steady line.
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signslimited@triad.rr.com Posts: 1244 | From: Winston-Salem, NC USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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My pounce wheels are quite old and I rarely use them anymore. But when I did, I pulled mine. I also pounced all my patterns in mirror image or reverse so the the hole where pointing upward when the pattern was turned right side up for pouncing.
Then I could lightly go over with some sandpaper to open the holes up better. The other way would close the holes back up.
Your pounce powder would transfer better this way.
-------------------- Bob Stephens Skywatch Signs Zephyrhills, FL
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