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Desire Rusovsky
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How to achieve a permanent sandblasted/etched look on security laminated glass?
Sandblasting didn't seem to be an option since the porosity of sandblasted glass is stain friendly. And this glasses are for outside. The laminate foil is translucent white.

Any ideas?

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Desire Rusovsky
SDG Signs
rue du Lac 24
1342 Le Pont
Switzerland
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Fred Floyd
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DeSire,
Why not etch the class on the inside.
Then the dirt will not have the normal effect as if outside.
Fred [Smile]

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Fred Floyd
Carolina Vinyl
Wilmington, NC USA

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William Holohan
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Desire,

Just tried acid etching for the first time last week. Not a sign man myself, but a foto fondler.Read about acid etching and just had to try it. Thought it should be something we should offer our clients. Bought a small kit at an arts and crafts shop. Had the boss cut a vinyl mask, plain old intermediate vinyl. Put mask on mirror,
applied acid paste, waited 6 minutes and it came out perfect. Started with the mirror horizontal and then stoo it up to vertical to see if the paste would run down the vinyl. Stayed right where I put it. Might be worth a try. You would have to be carefull to protect the glass not covered by the vinyl. I used a squeegee to remove excess paste before rinsing with plain water.

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William "Irish" Holohan
Resting...Read "Between Jobs."
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Chuck Churchill
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We did a corporate logo last year in etch look vinyl on interior lobby entrance glass (first surface) then put a security film on the second surface. Worked out real well. Our security film was clear not white. Not sure how the white film would change the look.

Both Avery and 3M make etched glass look vinyl products.

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Don Coplen
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I'd regretfully go with etchlook vinyl for tempered glass....but security glass is probably different (not familiar with it) and it might not matter.

I've etched glass for years, and still have to feel "etched" glass to see if it's genuine or vinyl. I figure if it can fool me, it can fool anybody.

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Desire Rusovsky
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This glass would be intended for separation on a balcony for an hotel in the montains. to add a touch of class.

So it would be exposed to cold weather, to lot of rain and snow and also to a lot of UV rays.
So etchlook vinyl don't seems to be an option.
Do the glass become porous with acid etching?

Thank you for your answers

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Desire Rusovsky
SDG Signs
rue du Lac 24
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Mike Pipes
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Can you take the glass out? Another option here is silkscreening a pattern onto the glass.

One material you can use is called a Ceramic Frit, it can be screenprinted onto the glass BUT the glass then has to be tempered to fuse the frit.

There might be some other material, like a screenprinting ink formulated for glass, that you could do this with.

I think acid etching is subject to the same problems as sandblasting.

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Jon Butterworth
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Why is "Etch" Vinyl not an option? Avery have 7 years exterior use on their product. Talk to your vinyl supplier there.

Personaly, I have had no problem with it. I used it on the inside of my own shower glass. The dolphin graphics have been there for 5 years now. Get hot/cold/wet every day [Smile]

One thing I have found tho, very thin lines and sharp points on graphics tend to lift after a while. Crop the points off.

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Desire Rusovsky
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quote:
Originally posted by Jon Butterworth:
Why is "Etch" Vinyl not an option? Avery have 7 years exterior use on their product. Talk to your vinyl supplier there.

Here, Avery says 5 years exterior use. And with temp which could reach under 0°F / -15°C. The other problem with Vinyl is it could be scratched by customers.

To Mike: Since it's a laminated glass with a sandwiched plastic foil, it can't be tempered.

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Desire Rusovsky
SDG Signs
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Wayne Webb
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Why not sandblast it on the inside of the glass.

Use a spotblaster or "air eraser". Pasche makes an air eraser.

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Wayne Webb
Webb Signworks
Chipley, FL
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Mike Pipes
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quote:
Originally posted by Desire Rusovsky:
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To Mike: Since it's a laminated glass with a sandwiched plastic foil, it can't be tempered.[/QB]

D'oh! I must have been reading too fast and didn't catch that part. [Smile]

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