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Had a friend ask me about decals for Tires. Seems he was at a motocross race and The Dunlop tire rep truck was there and the guy was installing decals on some of the Factory riders bikes. He told hime that when the decals was applied it reacted with the tires and became chemically bonded to it so that it didnd't come off. Any one know what type of material this may be. I have contacted the Tire Manufacturer and said they do have them but that they are only for Factory sponsored riders, Just wondering what type material this could be??? Thanks for all help
Mickey
-------------------- Mickey Warren T & M Signs Atlanta,Ga SAWMAN10@CHARTER.NET Posts: 17 | From: Atlanta,Ga | Registered: Dec 2001
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Do they use heat to set the vinyl? or is it just a chemical reaction? I am thinking to try the stuff called durabond it is for t-shirts you cut your logo and heat press onto the t-shirt. I would think something like this might work.
-------------------- Steve Eisenreich Dezine Signs PO BOX 6052 Stn Forces Cold Lake, Alberta T9M 2C5 Posts: 774 | From: Cold Lake | Registered: Mar 2000
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Since they were using this process on race tires, I wonder how much longevity they are able to get. Perhaps it wouldn't be too much trouble to redo them for the next week's races but if they're able to get them to last well enough for street use, I'll bet there are a bunch of street rodders, etc. that would like custom lettering on their favorite machine's tires. (kinda of like those tires on the cartoon cars that I used to see in the Hot Rod mags)
Mike, you could have the first lowrider truck with custom tire lettering to go with all that body work you've been doing!!
-------------------- Chris Elliott 1longshot@classicnet.net cell 62084two2232 Posts: 686 | From: Scottsdale, AZ & Anthony, KS, USA | Registered: Dec 1999
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hmmm. It's very hard to believe that it's a decal of any sort. Tires are very oiley. I just can't see any adhesive bonding with it. Now if it was some sort of ink or whatever it is they use for white lettering that is on stock tires....maybe it does react and dry. This is aside from the fact that those decals would be rotating pretty fast and could easily fly off. I just don't see a bunch of decals lying around on the track that could potentially fly up into someones goggles.
I was at the Anaheim Supercross 3 weeks ago and I sure didn't see any decals on tires. Are you sure it wasn't just a demo bike that sat in the pits on display?
-------------------- Bruce Evans Crown Graphics Chino, CA graphics@westcoach.net Posts: 913 | From: Chino, CA | Registered: Nov 1998
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He says the the guy wwas removing all the sidewall tits in the area of the decal and then cleaning with a degreaser and applying like any other decal. I have contacted the tire manufacturer (Dunlop) and they said that they were using them and that it was a permanent application but was for there factory riders only.Seems that he was able to get the guy to give him 2 of theses, I will get to see them next week.
-------------------- Mickey Warren T & M Signs Atlanta,Ga SAWMAN10@CHARTER.NET Posts: 17 | From: Atlanta,Ga | Registered: Dec 2001
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It seems that it couldn't be a solvent based adhesive, because tires are petroleum based and secrete small amounts of oil, defeating the adhesive. That's why on bus wraps ect, the weather striping os cut off. Maybe it is a type of system like the old side-wall tire patches that you glue over a hole, their not very safe so I don't think their common now.
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7 Dewey St. Unit 11 Natick, Ma 01760 Posts: 99 | From: Natick, Ma | Registered: Jan 2002
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quote:Originally posted by Chris Elliott: Mike, you could have the first lowrider truck with custom tire lettering to go with all that body work you've been doing!!
Maaaaan.... I just got done removing all the white lettering from my tires..
-------------------- "If I share all my wisdom I won't have any left for myself."
Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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Just thinking out loud - bicycle tire patches are peel and stick, and once on, they are really on.
As suggested by others above, maybe it's a chemical process that fuses the two pieces together.
So maybe they make really big patches for truck/earthmover tubes. Might be interesting to talk to someone who knows something about really big vehicle tires.
-------------------- Victor Georgiou Danville, CA , USA Posts: 1746 | From: Danville, CA , USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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In the early days of white lettered tires, I bought some "peel & stick" white letters from one of the local parts stores. They were individual letters, about 3/32" thick, and felt like rubber. I put about 30,000 miles on that set of tires, and the letters were still there when the tires came off. I have never seen any more of them, but it may have been an early version of the same material.
-------------------- Don Hulsey Strokes by DON signs Utica, KY 270-275-9552 sbdsigns@aol.com
I've always been crazy... but it's kept me from going insane. Posts: 2316 | From: Utica, KY U.S.A. | Registered: Jan 1999
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Back in the Mid 70's - early 80's, there was a custom tire company called TIRE COSMOTOLOGY that would apply raised lettering including colors to show vans and trucks.
Saw them at a Truckin event in Richmond, Va.
They woudl raise the vehicle and would rotate the wheels while running a wire brush against the side walls. They then applied a solution for cleaning and preparation and then applied the lettering as requested.
Have not seen or heard of the company for 20 years.
May have some pictures in some old albums, but have no idea where.
-------------------- Steve Carter {:{) a Touch of Glass 254 Lexington Mill Rd. Magnolia, DE, 19962 PH: 302-335-3170 Posts: 181 | From: Magnolia, De, USA - Center of the Universe | Registered: Jan 1999
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Just BTW, If anyone could put these stickers to an RPM test; it would have to be Don! The man has had his top speed confirmed by radar (without it hittin his wallet) more times than I bet he even remembers. Great stories Don! and he admits to bein crazy
-------------------- Bill Dirkes Cornhole Art LLC Bellevue, Ky. Goodnight Mrs. Calabash, wherever you are. Posts: 591 | From: Bellevue,Ky. US | Registered: Aug 1999
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Santo! I enjoyed the chuckle, what a riot. I mis dem days in de bayou land. Laughter is so important down dat way!
PS - Victor, until you brought up the bicycle tire gig with the decals, I was remembering what a nightmare it was to pull off a piece of pattern tape, that rode the wind into adhesion and was found days later. Vehicle tires will melt steel in the Georgia weather, LOL. (heat theory, since revised...chemical heat)
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