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After praising my new computer upgrade on Wayne's post I realized someone here may be able to help me with the one issue I am still having with my souped up machine.
My old 233 meg processor with 128 megs ram used to run fairly well as my primary design work station. Now with 1.3 gig processor & 1024 ram it is noticably faster as one would expect. It does however have on quirk that I can't believe I will have to tolerate...
The way I work is to have Illustrator, Photoshop, & CasMate open all day. Often I will have Quickbooks Pro open as well as IE (tuned to letterville) Sometimes I may open Streamline or my FTP program, but usually close that right away. I believe Windows update & Norton auto-update are the only things in my start-up folder that run when I boot up.
Since I have always worked this way, & I didn't have system resource problems before upgrading my computer, I can't believe I will need to start closing & re-opening my design programs throughout the day.
Is there some setting somewhere where "resources" may be improperly allocated? Any ideas why I get the resource problem?
On a possibly related clue, operations on this machine run noticably faster then before & as I move faster as well, sometimes I feel like I have pushed the machine too fast & the mouse will bog down for a few seconds while all my "commands" get digested. This only happened a few times & may have been shortly before getting the "resource" warning.
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since i do not know what op system u are using. And since I do not do any more trouble shooting in win 98, and i am not an expert in win 2k or XP.. nor do i wish too since i am no longer invloved with my computer store. this is just a few ideas.
First, windows 98 se does not use all that memory. I dont care what they say. It will only use the first 528 or so ( if i remember right). Some have said that it will. but acording to experts who really know,,,, it will not.. In fact, this is mentioned on M$ website..
Next. illustrator is a memory hog. As is corel. You must reduce the number of undo levels in both to a more reasonable level. Say about 15 or so.
Next look into illus and corel and set it memory usage to a differente level as well. you do not need to let it use 80% of available memory to run it. Play with this setting and watch how fast or slow corel or illustrator will open. There will be a difference.
Then make sure you have no hidden files running.. There will be programs that are runnin deep that u cannot detect unless you have the correct tools. Such as u ask?? how about those cookies, java, and other .exe's in Temp IE files/content. they are there and you will not see them.
There seems to be memory leaks in illustrator as well. It will not release all memory if you ever close it. Sometimes a reboot is all you can do.
this should be a good start.
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I know it sounds most unlikely but I am beginning to have suspicions that it is something to do with the Athlon CPU.
I can’t remember the details but, a while back, on the Fontographer newsgroup, there was a discussion between a user and Macromedia’s resident guru, about the huge amount of resources that Fontographer was using. The user insisted it was grabbing almost all his resources; the chap from Fontographer insisted it couldn’t happen, the user was running an Athlon. I don’t think either of them convinced each other. However, if I happen to forget to shut Fontographer down for the night, when AVG runs it’s scheduled 3.00am scan (normally takes about 17mins) I’ll wake up to a system locked up after AVG has been crawling through a scan for some 3 hours or so, before expiring.
Also a couple of other fairly simple applications have some rather odd glitches due, I’m told by their developers, to lack of system resources, while the computer, happily, runs recognized resource grabbers without undue stress.
I haven’t fully explored other possible reasons for these anomalies; in fact I’m learning to live with them; I’m just saying I have suspicions.
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I have computers with both Athlon and P-3 chips.
No matter how much ram I have, Photoshop 7 just sucks up the resources.
I installed a 60 gig hd and assigned it as the scratch disk. Photoshop seems to be much happier and my other programs (Omega, SignLab, Corel, and so on) seem to be doing much better.
You can get a shareware program like freemem and learn a lot about memory usage.
Some programs just grab all they can and never release it. Freemem will locate unused memory and release it for system use.
You can also run a program like ad-aware to remove unwanted tracking programs that come from the internet. I know of computers that were purged of 300 unwanted programs that were running in the background. System stability improved greatly.
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Doug, go to Accessories, System Tools, and there are a couple of programs there that may help. In 2000, control alt delete takes you to a window where you can see what is going on in the machine. Like you, I like to leave everything open, and the system does the things you talk about. When this starts, you go to the tool to see what is going on, and the machine is out of resources. You can turn things off one at a time to see what frees up resources. Photoshop eats power like crazy.
Also, run msconfig (.exe?)from the run box and it will tell you everything that is starting up with the machine. Most of these you can turn off.
These things help, but are not a real solution. Vic G
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doug, try this...in the little window where the time is, close all applications there. these are programs running in the back ground. with all these closed you can go to control panel, systems, and performance and see how you much % of system resoures you got. check this BEFORE you close all in the small window, then look again after. you will see a marked raise in sys res. also like glen says about a seperate hard drive is a good idea, cause it give a program like photoshop the H/D empty space to use as a ram area. i run win 98 se and luv it. corel 7 ive said is the best...one reason no problem with it useing all the system resourses. if you can limit the open programs, with a newer machine you can open photoshop in matter of sec. streamline also uses up sys res when your scanning, i have problems with it if i do a scan 4,5 times....usually need exit program and reopen to get it back working. sign programs..tend to want to run the whole computer, most are not designed to be a multi-tasking program.\ as for the ram issue win 98se will only see 512 ram, thats the way it was designed. but if you got 1024 in the machine and the bios says its there then its there. win 98 will only see 512 but photoshop/scanner/ corel will use the rest. also over ramming win 98se will sometimes cause those errors your getting, take the ram back to 512 and see if it stops the errors.....
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This is great, lots of good stuff to try. Thanks all. I do have the extra 10 gig HD in there so I will try designating that as the scratch disc for photoshop. I'll be trying these other suggestions & will report back.
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