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Amy without knowing more about the job its hard to say but your price sounds too low. Canvas awnings are a real bitche to paint. What color because light on dark will require at least two coats. The material is pourous and your paint will bleed. You'll need to use something like a fitch because a quill is too soft. Are they bringing the material to you or do you have to do it on site? If you've never painted one before you will find its harder than you realize at this point. Find a similar piece of material and practice on it. This will give you an idea of what you're up against.
-------------------- Bob Stephens Skywatch Signs Zephyrhills, FL
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Thanks for the reply Bob! I didn't know if I could do it or not. At this point in the game I took a pass.
The customer told me he appreciated me being honest with him and said he paid $80 ten years ago for the same thing. So I guess I would have really screwed myself!!
Thanks again!
-------------------- Amy Brown Life Skills 101 Private Address Posts: 3502 | From: Lake Helen, FL, USA | Registered: Feb 2001
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For future reference, when doing a canvas banner, get a Beugler striping wheel, fit it with a wide head, roll the outer edges of the letter like an outline with the Beugler, fill in with a fitch. Makes the job go much faster and the edges are a whole lot cleaner.
-------------------- George Perkins Millington,TN. goatwell@bigriver.net
"I started out with nothing and still have most of it left"
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Hi Amy... In the future if you ever have to paint white 1-Shot on a dark background, add some 1-Shot silver to the white paint. It may look a little grey, but when you get it on the dark color it will look white. The silver helps the white cover better.
Jackson
Oh...one other thing to always remember..."NEVER let them know you are HUNGRY for work!!!"
[ January 15, 2003, 12:05 PM: Message edited by: Jackson Smart ]
-------------------- Jackson Smart Jackson's Signs Port Angeles, WA ...."The Straits of Juan De Fuca in my front yard and Olympic National Park in my backyard...
"Living on Earth is expensive...but it does include a free trip around the Sun" Posts: 1004 | From: Port Angeles, Washington | Registered: Jan 1999
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Hi Amy, is the Awning material like Vinyl? Because if it is you may not be able to use 1shot without a primer first, something like TI-COAT, ask your Sign supplier about it, another product that you can use is Vinyl screen ink. Of course another questions is is it going to be Back-lit, And if it is then it should be sprayed using Grip-flex paint, if a color other than black is to be used. I know I'm rambling here, but if the Awning is a Cloth type of banner, say like Sumbrella, then a good Acrylic house paint is what is needed for that job. Maybe cut a reverse weed vinyl template and crefully lay it down and then roll with a good quality minroller.
Hope this helps.
-------------------- "Keep Positive"
SIGNS1st. Neil Butler Paradise, NF Posts: 6277 | From: St. John's NF Canada | Registered: Mar 1999
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The material according to the guy on the phone was to be new 9 oz./yd. (I think he said) canvas, burgundy in color.
He has one already in place that a sign guy painted 10 years ago with 1-shot. The paint is still fine but the canvas is faded bad.
I basically explained to him that I hadn't painted on canvas awnings before and wasn't comfortable using it as a practice piece and possibly destroying his material. He was very kind and thanked me for my honesty and quick customer service. Said everyone he has been dealing with were idiots or didn't even get back to him like they said they would. One place slid an estimate under his door when they weren't even there.
Neither the customer or myself can find someone to paint it. Everyone around here tries to sell him vinyl. I thinks he's going to paint it himself.
The good thing is he was referred to me by my local paint supplier. That's cool!
Have a great one...
-------------------- Amy Brown Life Skills 101 Private Address Posts: 3502 | From: Lake Helen, FL, USA | Registered: Feb 2001
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amy, you say 12" x 16"? pretty small. if you want to help the guy out ..if hes gona paint it, cut him a stencil or draw him a pounce pattern and give it to him. he will remember you for his next sign......
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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might as well learn now while you got all this fresh advice. Get yourself a small remnant of sunbrella from any local awning shop. I'm sure they have as much throw-away as we do vinyl. Check out Glenn's step-by-step. You don't want to use 1-shot, because Naz-Dar's PX series screen ink is so much more opaque. I did a burgandy awning with white & after pouncing I used a 1" brush to hand paint a 2" stroke width block letter. I sort of did 2 coats at once & it was very opaque when done. (I thought I'd have to go back, but it really was good enough)
If you are going to use a mask, I'd recommend staying away from using One Shot. You will have a problem with the paint bleeding underneath as the fabric soaks up the paint. I'd recommend using Nazdar's Permaflex Ink. You can apply the mask, then apply one or two coats of the ink as needed, and then remove the mask. If you apply a second or even a third coat, you do not need to wait for the previous coat to dry. The ink is very thick. DO NOT thin it. It will not bleed under the mask or through the fabric.
Generally, I will apply a thin coat at first and then go back immediately and apply a much heavier coat.
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