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This is the first time I have posted anything so please be gentle. I have done some painting on vinyl in the past but it never seems to last long. First I use a vinyl primer (1-shot) and I am using aerosols for the paint (one is vinyl tech and the other is krylon). Do I need to clear these or do they just not last????
Simple as that... you won't like using it (no one does) but it works.
I have a banner thats 8 years old...it hung over the main entry to my shop and it still is not faded. No clear... no magic potions to make enamel stick..."just the right stuff on the right stuff".
Nazdar makes a really good Vinyl screen ink that can be thinned and sprayed...rolled...even brushed.
If you decide to go this way...e-mail me with your specific need and I'll do my best to give you the proper solution.
There was that gentle enough?
"Werks fer me , it'll werk fer you"
[ January 13, 2003, 11:13 PM: Message edited by: Monte Jumper ]
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Hi Amy...Young Monte tells the truth. I use a different method, and it works for me, but Monte's material recommendation is foolproof.
Welcome to Letterville!!!
(the gentlest welcome I can muster!!!! LOL )
-------------------- Dave Grundy retired in Chelem,Yucatan,Mexico/Hensall,Ontario,Canada 1-519-262-3651 Canada 011-52-1-999-102-2923 Mexico cell 1-226-785-8957 Canada/Mexico home
I use Createx, mix in a drop of Bond-All and a drop of Catalyst. Spray it on with an airbrush. Then activate the Catalyst with a heat gun and you're done. Really, really easy for me! Best of all, it's waterbased and doesn't stink. I can do this in my living room without even gettin' yelled at!!
I do clear over everything with Frog Juice or 1-Shot UV clear for durability (this part will stink up the house).
It's just another way for you to try. I doubt the Createx is anywhere near as durable as the inks that Monte and those guys suggest though, so it something to consider.
Good Luck and welcome to Letterville!
-------------------- Mark Neurohr "Ernest" Paintin' Place 141 Sunnyside Road Kittanning, PA 16201
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Hi, Amy Welcome to letterville, neighbor! This place is great with many talented people willing to help (Thanks Letterville)
I can’t help too much on the paint issue because I’m learning myself.I purchase a airbrush recently and definitely still in the learning curve and looks like I might be there for awhile !
“Just an old dog learning new tricks”
-------------------- Don Southard DS Signs and Design Omaha,NE 68142 Posts: 24 | From: Omaha,NE | Registered: Nov 2001
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Hello Amy, welcome aboard. All of the advice is good advice. But another product that's fool proof, is Grip Flex Paint, it's the kind that you spray onto Vinyl canopies. You won't be able to brush it cause it's not meant for that, but it sprays beautiful and Airbrushes perfectly. I have done special effects on Vinyl lettering and Canopies 15 years ago or longer that still look great. Maybe visit a commercial shop, and maybe they will sell you a little of it. Good Luck!
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SIGNS1st. Neil Butler Paradise, NF Posts: 6277 | From: St. John's NF Canada | Registered: Mar 1999
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I use Nazdar vinyl inks thinned out and also a lot of SEM its an automotive elastomeric coating used by bodyshops to spray vinyl body parts... sticks like OP to tofu!
Should be readily available thru local autobody supply.
-------------------- Del Badry philmdesign Sylvan Lake, Alberta Posts: 636 | From: Sylvan Lake, Alberta | Registered: Nov 1998
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to answer your specific question, yes, you probably need to spray on a clearcoat. Frog Juice clear is popular, and so is the 1-shot spray on acryllic UV clear.
when you say the paint doesn't last, what's it doing? peeling, flaking, or fading? if its fading, then the clear coat will help solve that problem, at least for 1-3 year stuff, like banners. i don't know how long it lasts beyond that.
you might also look into the Frog Juice color spray paints. they're available from Far From Normal, up in Fargo, by mail order. they use a more agressive solvent, and are designed to "bite" into vinyl and banners without needed the primer. not as easy to get as running down to the hardware store, but it saves a step, and it lasts longer. i believe they also suggest spraying the clear coat as the final step.
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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Hi amy, if your problem is lifting or peeling, i've learned that if you give the area to be painted a 'tooth' by way of a few passes with a scotch brite pad (preferably gray), the pigment used adheres much better.
hope this helps...
-------------------- Jefferson Howery Firebrand Fabrication 1029 Western Ave. Vallejo, CA ------------------------------------- "Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo." - H. G. Wells Posts: 8 | From: Vallejo, ca | Registered: Dec 2002
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Hi amy, if your problem is lifting or peeling, i've learned that if you give the area to be painted a 'tooth' by way of a few passes with a scotch brite pad (preferably gray), the pigment used adheres much better.
hope this helps...
-------------------- Jefferson Howery Firebrand Fabrication 1029 Western Ave. Vallejo, CA ------------------------------------- "Moral indignation is jealousy with a halo." - H. G. Wells Posts: 8 | From: Vallejo, ca | Registered: Dec 2002
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I use Flex-Art waterbased-urethane vinyl paint with airbrush, roller, foam brush or lettering brush. No smell at all! It's what the inflatable industry uses. Also great for vinyl tire covers and banners. Dries very fast. I don't much care for the stinky naz-dar.
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