I have finally updated my airbrushs and bought the eclipse 6 pack. In addition to these brushes, I wanted to spring for two more brushes that produced finer detail...gravity fed and be able to acheive diferent results than the other.
What do y'all suggest?
Also...I have been told not to mix oil base and acrylic base shooting in the same gun...what is your take on this?
THANKS!!!!
-------------------- Robert Beverly Arlington, Texas Posts: 1033 | From: Arlington, Texas | Registered: Jan 2001
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Robert, the whole idea behind the design of the eclipse is to allow for a thick line all the way down to a hairline without changing needles. Damn nice tool for only a few bucks more than a Paasche VL! I used VL for years, and IMHO they're junk. Of course, I didn't realize that until the first time I used an Iwata.
I've heard not to mix acrylics and oils in the same brush, but all I know about that is that acrylics want to dry in the brush.
The Paasche AB turbine airbrush will do much finer lines than anything else out there, but they're a pain in the butt to maintain, and have no real use for signs. They're used primarily for illustration, such as magazine work. I don't know if anybody still uses them for that anymore, since programs like Photoshop and Photopaint have taken over that kind of work.
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Robert, I would suggest calling "Dave Monnig @ Coast Airbrush". He will answer ALL your questions. 714-635-5557. www.coastairbrush.com Tell'em "Mr.J" sent ya. Also, if you are going to shoot acrylics in your airbrush, you'd better keep one just for acrylics. Buy Iwata's airbrush cleaner and use it whenever you paint with acrylics.
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Happy Holidays peoples. In the past I've used the Paasche turbine for detail, but haven't airbrushed in 12 or so years.
Jules, I would suggest Dave Monnig come to this BB for a few months, the same way you and I arrive here. We certainly need more expertise, doncha' think ?
-------------------- HotLines Joey Madden - pinstriping since 1952 'Perfection, its what I look for and what I live for'
I was looking at getting the micron B & C...but wanted to get some feedback before jumpin! I do want to stay with the Iwatas...so it's all in the family...and I am leaving my paasche's for the acrylics!
-------------------- Robert Beverly Arlington, Texas Posts: 1033 | From: Arlington, Texas | Registered: Jan 2001
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What's the reasoning behind seperate brushes for different mediums? I'm down to one working eclipse right now and use it for everything (one-shot, vinyl, createx, have put latex through it on occasion) I make sure it's spottless clean after every use and haven't had problems ... but ... don't use it every day. Is it for production purposes (speed, ease) that you would "need" seperate brushes or some molecular thing happening withing the parts? Am I screwing up my brush or just wasting time?
-------------------- Compulsive, Neurotic, Anti-social and Paranoid ... but basically Happy Posts: 2677 | From: Rochester, NY, USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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Mark the reason for two diff guns is that acrylic(waterbased) and the like have much larger particle size than the solvent based stuff. Pigments aren't ground as finely and over time blasting them through the gun at high pressure has a sandblasting type effect on the internals and needle and tip and will change the way/ability/pattern it then sprays solvent based,and you'll prob also find that the gaskets etc will over time be split or shrunk from the solvent if you're switching back and forth. Contamination is an issue,but it's not as big a deal as the other two reasons.
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Another tip for getting fine detail with the eclips is to remove the protective crown cap, doing this allows you to get closer to your surface and giving you a much finer line. ( one word of caution: be carefull not to biff the needle or you'll end up with a crochet hook! )
when your done wipe off the needle and replace the cap. also make sure you put the cap in a safe place while your painting because these little demons tend to vanish when they hit the floor! another brush I like to use for fine detail work is the Iwata custom micron B, I wouldn't reccomend using anything other than extremely fine automotive paint or water based paints like Dr.Martin's or luma dyes. the needle on these brushes are super fine and are matched to each head assembly for each brush and tend to clog rather easily with thicker paints or paints with any metalic in them. Mike
-------------------- Work like you don't need the money, Love like you've never been hurt, And Dance like no one's watching. :) Mike Lavallee Mike Lavallee's Pinstriping & Airbrush Art Everett, WA Posts: 449 | From: Everett, WA | Registered: Dec 1998
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