posted November 21, 2002 12:41 PM
I got a call today from the folks at USSC, with a question from one of their members looking for someone to make a large, very detailed branding iron. I don't have a lot of details, but it's for a brand of beer and the logo is gonna go on 40 conastoga wagons.....some kind of promotion. I had one source they could check out....any ideas? (they thought they could do it by hand with wood burning tools.....40?.....I don't think so ) Is this a job for a CNC?
Thanks!
Joe, Makin Chips and Havin Fun! At Atlantic City!
-------------------- Joe Cieslowski Connecticut Woodcarvers Gallery P.O.Box 368 East Canaan CT 06024 jcieslowski@snet.net 860-824-0883 Posts: 2345 | From: East Canaan CT 06024 | Registered: Nov 2001
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posted November 21, 2002 02:14 PM
Thanks Amy........LOL! Actually I could carve it from wood and then have it cast and machined....but just cause ya can, doesn't mean its the best way.heheheheh
Thanks Robert,I have passed your info along. I told USSC and their customer to monitor this post for any other vendors/options that might come along!
Thanks Everyone!
Joe, Makin Chips and Havin fun! In Atlantic City! 6 spots left in the carving workshop in AC !
-------------------- Joe Cieslowski Connecticut Woodcarvers Gallery P.O.Box 368 East Canaan CT 06024 jcieslowski@snet.net 860-824-0883 Posts: 2345 | From: East Canaan CT 06024 | Registered: Nov 2001
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posted November 21, 2002 05:14 PM
Pondside Iron Works up there in your neck of the woods !!!!
-------------------- John Smith Kings Bay Signs (Retired) Kissimmee, Florida Posts: 822 | From: Central Florida - The Sunshine State | Registered: Jan 2000
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It seems like burning a design into a real wagon would just about set the darn thing on fire. I think it would have to be pretty deep to do any good. I would put rubber on it and blast it. It would be easier to do right on the wagon, Then you could paint with flat black & then do some rubbing with some rags to make it look burnt. Maybe Mark Fair has some ideas for finishing??
-------------------- Jeff Ogden 8727 NE 68 Terr. Gainesville FL, 32609 Posts: 2138 | From: 8827 NE 68 Terr Gainesville Fl 32609 | Registered: Aug 2002
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posted November 21, 2002 07:41 PM
I have a subcontractor that does all my iron work. He probably can do it. Him me some details or pics and I'll get a quote.
-------------------- Laura Butler Vision Graphics & Sign 4479 Welch Rd Attica, Mi 48412 Posts: 2855 | From: Attica, Mi, USA | Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 21, 2002 07:42 PM
I have a subcontractor that does all my iron work. He probably can do it. Give me some details or pics and I'll get a quote.
-------------------- Laura Butler Vision Graphics & Sign 4479 Welch Rd Attica, Mi 48412 Posts: 2855 | From: Attica, Mi, USA | Registered: Nov 2000
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posted November 21, 2002 07:54 PM
Excuse me for taking this a little off topic, but...
How would I go about getting a custom SMALL iron made. I bought some wood veneer business cards and thought that someday I might be able to burn a custom image onto them somehow, but I don't have a clue where to start. I might end up just screenprinting them, but a branding iron would be really cool!
posted November 21, 2002 08:54 PM
Most of our welding shops out here make irons. Branding irons are special in that where the metal of the brand symbols weld together they grind out notches so that the heat build up is even. This gives a clean brand on a critter. For wood and such it doesn't matter all that much. Jeff is right to be concerned with fire but don't worry. I have branded many walls and bar tables around here with red hot irons. Sometimes the wood will flame but with a gloved hand just swat it out. No problem. Sounds like you have plenty of sources now but if you run into problems email me. Good luck!
posted November 22, 2002 07:26 AM
What the customer is wanting is an electric woodburning iron that has been created with the artwork directly on an aluminum plate. They are expensive and are made for mass production, but they are not faultless. They require cleaning every few brands when used with certain woods like pines because of the builtup on the iron. They burn differently on different kinds of woods, and usually will only leave a reasonable amount of detail. A factory that I screen printed the images for, went to this method, but found their use undesirable and came back within 2 weeks. You can make a fairly descent rendition of a brand with screenprinting. Joe, Email me if you want me to research the source and I will for you. Below is a screenprint version. The woodburning method is not nearly as good. In fact those deer heads could look like blobs in some cases. Jack
-------------------- "Don't change horses in midstream, unless you spot one with longer legs" bronzeo oti Jack Davis 1410 Main St Joplin, MO 64801 www.imagemakerart.com jack@imagemakerart.com Posts: 1549 | From: Joplin, MO | Registered: Mar 2000
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-------------------- Mario G. Lafreniere (Fergie) J&N Signs Winter did show up! Posts: 1257 | From: Chapleau, Ontario | Registered: Jun 1999
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I've seen those Lee Valley irons, but they are text only. I'd like to be able to design a custom iron with logo, name and phone #. BTW that's where I got the veneer cards.
posted November 22, 2002 02:52 PM
Terry, The best way to make wooden business cards is with a laser. Cherry is the best wood to use, as it turns a deep reddish-brown when burned with the laser. It's hard to get the fine detail needed on a business card with a branding iron, but that's no problem with a laser. The laser can also quickly cut out the cards.
-------------------- Eric Barker Rosewood Design LaGrande,Oregon Posts: 107 | From: La Grande, OR | Registered: May 2002
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