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Try copy and paste the object, when it asks for pixels, or paths select paths. You can then fudge around with it using the Paths Pallet and it's tools, make selection, scale, ect...
-------------------- Alan Ackerson LetterWorks Design and Graphics alan@ack2.com Posts: 776 | From: Oak Ridge, NJ | Registered: Aug 2002
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I'm curious on what you need to do Bob. I tried Alan's comment because I am not very knowledgable on "paths" in photoshop. I did paste as path, & could then "make path selection". I am sure there is more that can be done with path's but all I've ever done with them is export them to illustrator in an attempt to convert rastor to vector. I don't think there is any way of handling vector objects in photoshop in any way similar to how vectors behave elsewhere, though I have more to learn about PS by far then what I know already, so I will be watching this thread.
When I am creating & want to add vector creations to a rastor image I always place the rastor in illustrator, draw my vector componants over it, export as a tiff & resume work in photoshop, sometimes placing in Illustrator again to further build vector work into it.
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Right Shane, but for that purpose having "vector lines to select" is not necessary. Selecting the shape is needed of course, but as pixels.
Bob, maybe you are bringing in the "path" as in Alan's method. Open the paths pallette & the triangle in upper corner opens the menu to choose "make path selection" then you could fill it with color to get some pixels in there to define the shape & then add effects. If that is your goal though then when importing you could just choose to import pixels instead of paths, & save a step or two.
I am trying a trick I have in this book I'm reading and it is to fill these shapes and then bevel them and such I'll post it when I'm done. this is a learning exercise.
Oh also I am having trouble with combining two vector shapes.
I have two ovals, one inside the other, I am trying to combine them so I can fill them and then bevel.
I select the paths then ctrl-a for the direct selection tool, hold down the shift key and select the two shapes, then in the paths docker I select the " load paths as a selection" icon.
then after deselecting by clicking under the paths layer only the outer oval remains selected.
This only fills the outside shape not both as a combined unit,
What am I doing wrong?
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There is a way to alter the path in photoshop. There is a vector based tool set near the bottom left in the main tool pallet that allows you to manipulate the verticies (in this case, path points) This is mainly used for creating clipping masks for print.
Also the inner/outer selection fill problem...Are you tryig to work this as a compound path, like an O or a D?
To make this work as an example make a regular selection and then hold the the alt key and make a similar selection but smaller and inside the 1st to actually deselect from the orig. Should be good to go from here.
You can also save selections for future use under the select/save_path menu. And also convert these back to paths. Also can make paths from selection and vice versa.
Make a fill on a new or separate layer with no BG or matt (be sure to not be working on the default layer called background because many of the functions won't work here) deselect all and run your effect on the "whole layer" with everything deselected. Should work like a champ.
Also it is good to use the effects and adjustments from the layers menu because this gives you the ability to later go back and make changes. Keeps from "flattening" the layer and effect.
-------------------- Alan Ackerson LetterWorks Design and Graphics alan@ack2.com Posts: 776 | From: Oak Ridge, NJ | Registered: Aug 2002
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It looks like the option to paste paths is only available when you copy and paste from illustrator, I just tried it with illustrator with no problems but it wouldn't give me the option to past as paths when copied from CorelDRAW.
Bob, select each path individually then right-click on it, and select "Make Selection".. use '0' for the feather size unless you want a soft edge. When all the paths have selection marquees, you can use the fill command and it will treat the selections as you want it to.
Otherwise you can just import an EPS or AI into photoshop and use the Layer Style "Color Overlay" to make the shapes the colors you want them.
If you use illustrator, you can export a PSD from illustrator and when you open it in photoshop, it will maintain all the layers.
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Mike Pipes stickerpimp.com Lake Havasu, AZ mike@stickerpimp.com Posts: 8746 | From: Lake Havasu, AZ USA | Registered: Jun 2000
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Try holding the control and shift keys while clicking on the seperate layers(in the layers pallet)to make a selection from multiple layers at one time. This will give you one mass selection saved for later, useful for outlining the entire graphic for example.
Kind of lost track of what you were doing with this.
-------------------- Alan Ackerson LetterWorks Design and Graphics alan@ack2.com Posts: 776 | From: Oak Ridge, NJ | Registered: Aug 2002
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Bob, it sounds like you are going a long way around the block to get to the corner....but if that's what you need to do, I can understand. I'm not sure you will be able to use the text in Photoshop as vector outlines. While it is still "text" you can still edit it as text, but when you need to do much with it, you must "rasterize" the text which turns it permanently back into bitmaps. You can, however, let it rasterize it on a transparent layer, select the background with the magic wand tool, then "select similar" to get all the rest of the transparent background areas in the centers of the letters. After that, inverse the selection, which will give you only text. In the paths box, click on the icon that creates vector outlines against all the edges. Now you have vector outlines that you can edit with the paths tools. Again, this is a long process if you only need to select the edges of the original text so you can apply a filter or beveled edge.
In short, the text tool in Photoshop is a hybrid element and will probably not act like your ovals in vector form.
Good luck, Mike Jackson
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I have a book called Photoshop 6 down & dirty tricks.
There is a trick where you give depth to an illustrator eps logo.
You import an illustrator eps file and color and bevel and all that stuff. I figured this would be a great way to 3D a 2D Omega file. I dont really know this program but I figure I better learn it some day. lol
Anyway I came to the point where we have to combine say the center of an R with the outside. this is not working. I am doing it just like in the book and it doesn't work!
there has to be a way to do this or I'm missing something.
Damn this program is bass akwards!
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-------------------- Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA 508-865-7330
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quote: Anyway I came to the point where we have to combine say the center of an R with the outside. this is not working. I am doing it just like in the book and it doesn't work!
Bob, I draw a box around say, the letter R, whick selects all parts, and then go to compound paths and choose "make". It then makes the two parts as one. I then save it as an eps file to place in photoshop. Sometimes when I import an eps drawing, the letters have to be done this way in order to color them correctly.
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This is starting to make me batty. I created a letter O, flattened the type and then ran the effects filter. The different effects worked fine on the inside and outside of the shape/letter.
The only thing left I can think of is that you are working with a flattened file where the middle of your R or O shape could be filled with white or similar to the BG color. Making it more of a contoured effect than an outline. Isn't an eps file only one layer when reopened? Not sure. Can you turn off the BG and see through the middle of your letters?
One other thing I can think of is to be sure to deselect everything, click on the layer you want to work on in the layers pallet. Sometimes having an area selected will work against the effect and give poor results.
On a good note, it is possible to make paths out of the type directly through the layers/type/create work path function. Wondering if this reads the font outline vs. treating it as a basic shape for better results. Just a thought...
peace
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I should preface this with background...I was an engineering major, and used to tick off the profs from getting the right answer the wrong way.
There are a couple ways to get vectors into PS. Both are mentioned in the above posts. One, paste as paths...and second by using selection tools like the 'magic wand' and then select>similar, followed by making your selection into a workpath (in the paths window).
You can then select any of the resulting paths, either one at a time, or by holding the shift key choosing multiple paths. To activate the selected path after selecting it/them, click on the 3rd icon from the left at the bottom of the Paths window. (the circle with the dotted line). Then you should be able to get down and dirty with those selections.
I hope this helps. I'm not too big on doing stuff "textbook" and pretty much take a seat of the pants approach to puter work.
This is off topic, but still waiting for snowman pics from Massachusettes.
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Glad this post got brought up again, I did get this figured out, at least to a point where I got the job Done.
I had imported Vector shapes from Omega and that is where I beleive the problem began. Not that Omega does anything wrong but there must have been something in the way the vector was created. I had to import the vectors into Illustrator and do various commands in the pathfinder drop down untill I could combine them in Illustrator.
It was a crap shoot and as Don stated I was flying by the seat of my pants.
Oh Don , I dont think any snowmen will be here for a while, But I can post some nice christmas tree cutting down pics. lol
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