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Desire Rusovsky
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Which is the best way to applicate dark or black vinyl under glass?

I want to make a kind of glass monolith with silver coated glass, i.e. glass which become semi-mirror when painted dark at the back side.
I would to light it inside with neon and put some logo and lettering in transluscent colors.

Any idea?

Already do something similar?

Thank you

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Desire Rusovsky
SDG Signs
rue du Lac 24
1342 Le Pont
Switzerland
desire@sdgsigns.com
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Chuck Churchill
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You should think of painting the back surface of the glass black instead of vinyl. The adhesive on the vinyl will reduce the mirror like quality you want to achieve. You might want to mask off the areas where you want to apply text with paint mask or intermediate vinyl before painting. Take the mask off carefully befoe the paint fully dries then apply transluscent vinyl or paint in the letters after the black has fully applied.

I am curious as to the use of this sign. We are proposing a recepton area sign with a light source behind part of it to give a highlight on some of the 3D letters on the surface.

Tell us more!

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Chuck Churchill,
It's A Good Sign Inc.
3245 Harvester Rd, U-12
Burlington, Ont.
Phone: 905-681-8775
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Desire Rusovsky
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quote:
Originally posted by Chuck Churchill:
You should think of painting the back surface of the glass black instead of vinyl. The adhesive on the vinyl will reduce the mirror like quality you want to achieve. You might want to mask off the areas where you want to apply text with paint mask or intermediate vinyl before painting. Take the mask off carefully befoe the paint fully dries then apply transluscent vinyl or paint in the letters after the black has fully applied.

I am curious as to the use of this sign. We are proposing a recepton area sign with a light source behind part of it to give a highlight on some of the 3D letters on the surface.
Tell us more!

Which kind of paint would you use? What is the durability of paint exposed in montainous cold and snowy weather.

What do you think about 3M block-out?

For me it's a little bit difficult to explain since I'm French-speaking
[Roll Eyes]

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Desire Rusovsky
SDG Signs
rue du Lac 24
1342 Le Pont
Switzerland
desire@sdgsigns.com
http://www.sdgsigns.com

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Chuck Churchill
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I think a lot of guys that post here would suggest Oneshot paint for coating out the glass. However we have used goold quality exterior latex paints to coat the back surface of glass with excellent results. Sounds like you are planing on installing this monolith outdoors. The mountains won't hurt the paint (uless there is a landslide!) and cold shouldn't hurt it. As long as you use a paint that can stand up to the elements snow, ice, freesing rain, etc shouldn't effect it either.

One thing that I would worry about is heat from the sun. Painting glass black and letting it absorb a lot of energy from the sun is not a great idea. The glass will expand and you will run the risk of it cracking. Sign guys that paint glass black will always leave a clear boarder around the edges. Somehow this reduces the risk of breakage from heat absorbtio. You might think about using acrylic or polycarbonate instead of glass.

Does any of this make sense to you?

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Chuck Churchill,
It's A Good Sign Inc.
3245 Harvester Rd, U-12
Burlington, Ont.
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Desire Rusovsky
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quote:
Originally posted by Chuck Churchill:
One thing that I would worry about is heat from the sun. Painting glass black and letting it absorb a lot of energy from the sun is not a great idea. The glass will expand and you will run the risk of it cracking. Sign guys that paint glass black will always leave a clear boarder around the edges. Somehow this reduces the risk of breakage from heat absorbtio. You might think about using acrylic or polycarbonate instead of glass.
Does any of this make sense to you?

I absolutely need to use a specific kind of glass, since the nearby building is made with this glass. Do you know, this kind of building made with dark mirror-like glass!
I don't think that this special glass will crack since a dark enameled one is available directly from the manufacturer. And this peculiar glass has a semi reflective coating.
Nevertheless I think to use 2 or 3 separate pieces of glass each side instead of a single big one.

Thank you for your advice

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Desire Rusovsky
SDG Signs
rue du Lac 24
1342 Le Pont
Switzerland
desire@sdgsigns.com
http://www.sdgsigns.com

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