I'm working on my company truck and my logo is a green that can't be even closely matched in any vinyl, so I'm trying to paint the vinyl.
I've bought the GV Vinyl Screen Ink to paint on vinyl, and I've figured out the hard way that I won't be able to use it except with the airbrush, because I keep putting it on too thick and it's melting the vinyl.
So I decided to use 1 Shot painted on Avery enamel receptive since I need to get my truck out of the shop this week. It worked fine until I cleared it with Frog Juice out of the can with a brush. Now I've got melted vinyl again.
What am I doing wrong? Do I need the Frog Juice on the enamel receptive? Since it's my truck, I'm not as worried about longevity as I would be if it were a customer's vehicle.
-------------------- Penny Baugh Lee Edmund Spyro Design Group
Spyro Graphics 3458 Main Street, East Fort Payne, AL 35968
Even though the vinyl is enamel receptive we have learned that a layer of Ticote from chromatic is best applied to the vinyl first. This is a binder made just for this use. Then you can spray or brush or roll out your one-shot on top of that. You do not have to frogjuice the one-shot at all.
If you need to clear then use the one-shot clear. But you do not need to as the one-shot will be durable enough.
Ticote is water based and dries quickly but read the directions and you will be fine. we have tried and tested this method with excellant results consistantly.
[ November 13, 2002, 11:22 AM: Message edited by: Bob Rochon ]
-------------------- Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA 508-865-7330
"Life is Like an Echo, what you put out, comes back to you." Posts: 5149 | From: Millbury, Mass. U.S. | Registered: Nov 1998
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We airbrush vinyl with createx auto air mixed with catalyst and bond all, then i use frog juice to add a sheen workes good. Ive used 1 shot without much luck it peels back up with the transfer tape
[ November 13, 2002, 11:51 AM: Message edited by: Richard Doyle ]
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I'll second what Richard said...Createx Auto Air, except I use it straight from the bottle (no cat or bond all). I clear with Krylon UV Gloss.
Haven't had any failures or problems yet...
-------------------- Randy Graphic Details Promotional Merchandise Distributor South Glens Falls, NY Posts: 381 | From: South Glens Falls, NY USA | Registered: Mar 2001
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I just bought a detail gun to use for fades on vinyl (a cheapo one from Harbor Freight) I got some vinyl ink from a screenprinter in town. I want to use the Nazdar GV series, I don't think thats what they gave me (it came in a black quart pale, didn't have a label)
Tried shooting some fades on some vinyl lettering, it came out pretty cool and stuck to the vinyl real well. I didn't prep the vinyl at all. I couldn't scratch it off nor did I have problems with the transfer tape. Only thing is that even thinned pretty good, I noticed that there seemed to be thick dots in the spray pattern. Not very big (same thing happened using a Passhe airbrush. I hear the Nazdar brand shoots on real smooth, so can't wait to try that.
[ November 13, 2002, 09:53 PM: Message edited by: Tony B ]
-------------------- Tony Broussard Graphic Details Digital Media Loreauville, LA Posts: 395 | From: Loreauville, LA | Registered: Jul 1999
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There's a lot of variation in the types of solvents used in paints and therefore their vinyl compatibility, Krylon is one of the best. With One Shot it's recommended that the One Shot Vinyl Primer be used.
Bob seems to have a good tested system.
-------------------- Kenneth Sandlin Author of "Wide Format Printing: An Introduction and Buyer's Guide" PO Box 1295 St. Augustine, FL 32085 kennethsandlin@msn.com http://wfprinting.tripod.com Posts: 116 | From: Jacksonville, FL | Registered: May 2002
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