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Ive been in the sign business a few years now making vinyl lettered, hand carved, and sanblasted signs. one thing my work lacks is pictorials and I was wondering what the best paint was to do more of this work?
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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I use pictoral oils like you buy in tubes or one shot. It depends on the budget of the project as oil in tubes are much more expensive let alone buying them in quarts and pints.Either way I am assured I have a product that will stand up to the elements if an exterior use is intended. Not all acrylic art paints have binders that are intended for exterior use. Certain oil pigments are fugitive also so be sure to check your labels to guarantee longevity,...no sense in doing alot of hard work and seeing it fade away due to lack of prior judgement.
-------------------- fly low...timi/NC is, Tim Barrow Barrow Art Signs Winston-Salem,NC Posts: 2224 | From: Winston-Salem,NC,USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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A lot my pictorials on Carvings now are painted using Japan Colors, they seem to have that early ameriacan look and they're flat after they dry. Not to mention as stated above, they are solvent based and are proving to hold up in an outdoor environment.
I also use one-shot but I dont get blends well with that. I haven't quite got the smiths cream and one-shot blending thing down yet.
-------------------- Bob Rochon Creative Signworks Millbury, MA 508-865-7330
"Life is Like an Echo, what you put out, comes back to you." Posts: 5149 | From: Millbury, Mass. U.S. | Registered: Nov 1998
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This thread brings to mind another technique that is rapidly becoming a thing of the past in some ways. In the old outdoor shops we would punch the clock in the morning and head to the paint room and refill our palletes from quarts and gallons of oil color. I was lucky in that I had someone who did nothing all day but paint pictorals to show me the techniques and teach me the proper paints and mixtures that would hold up to the elements. We even had seminars in the Neagele shops to make sure everyone had the know how to do it fast,precisely and properly.Guys would work for years just to get a chance at the pictoral positions as it was the highest pay scale in the shop. Rarely do I see the process actually done properly as most art schools focus on modern art these days and not photo-realist illustration techniques.Every now and then I still get a glimpse of one of these old jobs and as time wears on they fade beautifully and the colors do not muddy up so the job actually becomes more beautiful with time,due to the colors used by the painter. Each painter had his own formula of smiths cream and varnish and thinner medium that worked best for them. Some would work with just linseed oil and thinner for a medium. The mix varied from area to area due to the climate each painter had to work in. Some would work only from patterns and others swore that was a sacrilage and freehanded the work as they went along. it was often as not almost a wonder watching some of the old pro's working as they would start in one corner and as they went this huge photo would appear in a matter of hours sometimes. It was not unheard of for a painter to do almost a thousand square feet of picture in a day and a half to two days in those shops and it came out looking like a photograph! Well so much for my rant,....hopefully somebody out there is keeping the craft and not losing out to the digital prints.
-------------------- fly low...timi/NC is, Tim Barrow Barrow Art Signs Winston-Salem,NC Posts: 2224 | From: Winston-Salem,NC,USA | Registered: Nov 1998
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