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are you wanting a draftsman or an engineer drawing? iam a draftsman, can do floorplans and layouts, but hard to do over such a distance....also if you need these for permits to build, youll need engineer drawings. also you can buy small programs that do this on you computer....they are CAD programs from $19-$5000 depends on what you want.
-------------------- joe pribish-A SIGN MINT 2811 longleaf Dr. pensacola, fl 32526 850-637-1519 BEWARE THE TRUTH.....YOU MAY NOT LIKE WHAT YOU FIND Posts: 11582 | From: pensacola, fl. usa | Registered: Nov 1998
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Sorry I left you guys hanging. Thanks for your responses. See, a client of mine does shows for big companies & needs floorplans to show her clients where the stage, tables & chairs, plants & other decorative items will go. The locations vary, usually at hotels.
It seems like an easy job & something I'll do on a regular basis...
My question is, how much can I charge for a job like this? I've never done it & I don't want to rip either one of us off.
Thanks guys!
-------------------- Felix Marcano PuertoRicoSigns.Com Luquillo, PR
Work hard, party like a tourist! Posts: 2281 | From: Luquillo, Puerto Rico, USA | Registered: Nov 2000
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they of course will need to be to scale, so if you have to get measurements, thats one cost (based on time & travel) if they provide measurements, then the basic "floor" should go quick, but if they have blueprints to trace it will go quicker. Then how "presentable" your client wants the presentation to be is the next question. The footprint of all elements need to be measured & drawn in their location to scale. For this type of presentation, a good marker drawing with a little free-hand flair may look best. Draw over a drafted line drawing or graph paper & as for providing the actual measurements I would not clutter up the drawing, but do they need detailed info, or more just a visual? Maybe a reduced scale drawing with dim's written in.
Once you got the scale info on paper, an elevation drawing can become a nice rendering with even more artistic embellishments or even 3d it into an isometric drawing.
I think the most basic drawing with all the measurements provided to you has got to be at least $100, probably closer to $200 to make it look nice. Easily double those figures for a high end client or market.
I've done tons of floor plans as well as emergency evacuation routes for the hospitals I've worked at. Did every one in Excel using the drawing tools (everyone has Excel, right)? Change the size of all cells to be square (format, cell height and width to equal numbers), and draw!
Like in the other post, there are some very low end and inexpensive programs that will probibly do this better, but you already have Excel, Right!
Mark
-------------------- Mark Neurohr "Ernest" Paintin' Place 141 Sunnyside Road Kittanning, PA 16201
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Felix, we did lots of fire maps, usually working from large building drawings.
We would take the blueprints over to Kinko's and have them shot down to 8.5 by 11 or thereabouts.
We would scan the scaled down drawing into Photoshop or Photopaint and blow off a lot of detail just to make the file smaller. Quality of the bitmap is not very important.
Then we would bring the bitmap into Corel and use it as a tracing pattern. Most of the detail goes away in the finished drawing - nooks and crannies in the walls are irrelevant on a directional map. Simplicity is good. After you have made one or two you get very fast at it.
That doesn't really help you with pricing. For the above technique, for a relatively simple building, I would say to use your graphic artist rate and allow one to two hours based on the complexity of the structure. That's just for the basic building layout. Add for sign layout, proofs, etc, etc. The real time is in adding back in all the directional information, getting map orientations, and so on.
A job like Mark's hospital above would take more time, could be way more for a big building. Maybe he could give us a feel on time for something he has done.
Hope this helps. Vic G
-------------------- Victor Georgiou Danville, CA , USA Posts: 1746 | From: Danville, CA , USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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When I've done the evacuation routes, the building has already been broken down into fire zones according to code. To give you an idea, taht a 260,000 ft2 building, and divide it into maybe 20 or 25 different zones. So on average, each would be aprox. 10,000 ft2. I'd say on average, working off of a blueprint it would take 2-3 hours of design time.
Sorry, but I tried to paste a copy of a spreadsheet of the latest one I did, but it didn't work.
-------------------- Mark Neurohr "Ernest" Paintin' Place 141 Sunnyside Road Kittanning, PA 16201
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