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Tim N. Townsend
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Does any one out there have, or know where I can find, some refrence material on ornamentation for antique safes? I have been given the opportunity to restore 3 safes from the 1800's.

Any help would be great.

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Tim N. Townsend
Boise, ID

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Tim N. Townsend
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???????????????

Anybody gonna help or is everybody to busy with their gossip???

[Confused] [Frown] [Confused] [Frown] [Confused] [Frown]

Thought this was a site for LETTERHEADS!!!!

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Tim N. Townsend
Boise, ID

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Linda Silver Eagle
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Hay Tim,

Go easy on these guys, some of em work for a living!

You could look on the website for Golden's CD's. He does exceptional work and everyone who has ordered from him seems happy they did.

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Linda Welborn
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http://www.precious101.com

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Jeffrey Vrstal
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I have done a few of these for a guy that use to salvage them and then re-sell. If the lettering in intact enough to see who made it and the year, there are catalogs and collector price sheets that may give you some clues. Scope the web for info.

BE CAREFUL when opening these things. Many were equipped with all sorts of NASTY booby traps to prevent "safe-crackers" from doing their work. Some have a vial of cyanide that breaks when the door is opened without the correct combination. This stuff will kill you or make you very sick. It is absorbed through any moist part of your body... like your eyes, lips and nose.

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Jeff Vrstal
Main Street Signs
157 E. Main Street
Evansville, WI 53536
1-608-882-0322

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Arvil Shep' Shepherd
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I hope this helps.. web page

"I took a few minutes from the "GOSSIP POOL" and looked these up......hope they help.
Shep'

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Joe Endicott
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Doing a quick search on google.com (web & images) turned up a few things. I would look for books on the subject at the library, or some antique stores. Good Luck.

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Joe Endicott
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Virginia Beach, VA
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CJ Allan
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hey Tim..........No problem.....If ya can just hold that hoop a little lower, I'll jump right through it for ya........

Now what was the question......?

Oh Yeah.....Restoring Safe art...!!
Restoring means to put back to original .....so ya gotta have the original artwork for those particular safes. Try to find the manufacturs name on it somewhere, and research from there...

Sure hope this helps...........Gotta get back to the ol Gossip Pool with Shep, now !!

...........cj

PS.............I see ya live in Boise......There's an "Original" Letterhead around town there someplace, so maybe ya could just run on over to his shop where I'm sure he'll drop whatever he's doin to help ya.............That's what letterheads are for ya know....... [Smile]

[ October 03, 2002, 08:37 PM: Message edited by: CJ Allan ]

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CJ Allan
CJs Engraving
982 English Dr.
Hazel, KY 42049

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Judy Pate
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Hi Tim,
I have a Hall's Safe Co. Safe to restore and have been searching for reference material also. But unfortunately Hall's Safe company has been out of business since 1938. Shep..the web page you posted has been the only one I found concerning Hall's Safe Company out of Cincinnati,Ohio and Louisville,Kentucky. I have pictures of this safe I have to restore in which you can see some of the details. I will post her elater.
Find anything else Tim? Anybody?
Judy

[ October 03, 2002, 09:21 PM: Message edited by: Judy Pate ]

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Judy Pate
Signs By Judy
Albany, Georgia USA
229-435-6824


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Tim Barrow
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There is a beautiful safe on the album cover of the album "Dirt,Silver and Gold" by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band,....If ya can find a copy,....

[ October 04, 2002, 01:51 AM: Message edited by: timi NC ]

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fly low...timi/NC is,
Tim Barrow
Barrow Art Signs
Winston-Salem,NC

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Steve Shortreed
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If you are looking for some excellant, quality ornamantation on CD, you'll want to add these CDs to your collection.

Golden Era Studios... Lots Of Eyecandy
http://www.goldenstudios.com/broadway/index.htm

Butler Gold Vol. 1 & 2
http://www.letterhead.com/suppliers/butler/

VectorArt Mega Collection
https://www.rolanddga.com/store/megacollection/

The VectorArt CD has shown up a few times on the Letterville Auction. Some have really got a bargain. Check it out at http://www.letterhead.com/cgi/auction22.cgi?category=sign

One final thought Tim. I know you are eager to get your hands on the info you need, but you have to learn to show a little patience. Letterheads love to share with each other, but the warm fuzzies flow both ways. It took 5 hours to get your first reply, but you must realize that many of us work until 5 or 6 pm, if not later.

Have you taken the time to go thru the other posts and answer any questions you can? Letterheads continues to work only if it is a 2 way street.

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Steve Shortreed
144 Hill St., E.
Fergus, Ontario
Canada N1M 1G9
519-787-2673

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Rick Sacks
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Tim, we've done several safe restorations. Every one of them had enough remaining to photograpg and make patterns from. If you need photos from other safes, I have some I could send to you. When I see a beautiful old safe, I like to take a shot to save for the day I might need it. Thank you for identifying the book that needs to be written.

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The SignShop
Mendocino, California

http://www.mendosign.com

Making the simple complicated is commonplace;
making the complicated simple, awesomely simple, that's creativity. — Charles Mingus

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PKing
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oopps  -

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PKing
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It is really a refrigerator  -

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William Holohan
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You might want to try a request in the alt.locksmithing news group. Lots of old time locksmiths hang out there.

Give them a manufacturer and description and I'm sure someone has info or old photo to help you out.

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William "Irish" Holohan
Resting...Read "Between Jobs."
Marlboro, MA 01752
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Mark Fair Signs
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hey tim,
they have these "things" on the the internet now called "search engines".
also i have heard of these "things" called "public libraries"

both of these "things" are great for "research"

i will now go back to gossiping about what a crappy attitude you had on your second post! LOL

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Mark Fair Signs
2162 Mt. Meigs Road
Montgomery, Alabama 36107

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Arvil Shep' Shepherd
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Mark,
In his second post he said "I thought this place was for LETTERHEADS"./......... [/B]
[B]"I wonder what he was doing here????? he he he


Shep'

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Arvil Shep' Shepherd
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Steve Shortreed
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Our old pal Rick Glawson of Esoteric Sign Supply in Wilmington, CA. sent in a couple cool photos to share. The first is a nice safe Rick stumbled upon in Brodie, CA.

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This is a page from the Palms catalog. Esoteric offers a laser copy of this sheet.

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The Esoteric Sign Supply Website is undergoing a renovation. Looks like the new site will include an online catalog, as well as all sorts of valuable information. You'll want to bookmark this page!

www.esotericsignsupply.com

[ October 06, 2002, 12:14 AM: Message edited by: Steve Shortreed ]

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Steve Shortreed
144 Hill St., E.
Fergus, Ontario
Canada N1M 1G9
519-787-2673

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www.letterville.com/profiles/shortreed/

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PKing
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Way kewl Steve
Thanks to Rick for these "refrence"
designs like this,along with fire engine scrolls that Timi Barrows comes up with.
Should be located in some sort of clearing house For Sale to all us whom desire to purchase them.
Hope this helps EVERYONE!

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DianeBalch
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Diane took pictures of an old safe, it needs restoring.

safe ornament
safe date
safe corner
more safe
safe front

Back in the pool
ernie

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1045 Raymond Rd
Malta, NY 12020
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