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I have seen a 1 mil clear that is supposed to help allow some choices of solvents to attempt to salvage a defaced sign that otherwise couldn't hold up to the solvents. I have a client who wants to have a sign re-done & hopes to find a level of protection that may allow some grafitti to be cleaned off the new one if it happens again.
I need to know what is out there, what it claims to offer, & how well it works if anyone has any knowledge of such a thing.
It is for a 4x8 real estate sign that will have background & border in one-shot, copy in cut vinyl, & a map that will either be an edge print, or a second background color masked off, with property lines & lot numbers in vinyl
I found DOL 5000 with Teflon on Avery's site...probably beaucoup $$$!!
If you have a way to get it consider Matthews Paint CLear. It is good for that- dries hard as nails and gives excellent graffitti resistance (I still think we should take a line from Singapore's book- cane those buggers 15 times and they will NEVER pick up a spray bomb again ).
-------------------- Steve Burke Cascades Inc NS Canada
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I use 3M's protective transparent overlay film on signs for graffiti protection. It's expensive but performs well. Click on the links below to read the product bulletin. (PDF files)
I do not like the premasked film. The application tape on the premasked causes wrinkling or puckering on the clear which you can't see from the premask side.
[URL=http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver.dyn?ppppppZXhADpJTqpCTqpppQKj04PPPPO-#xml=http://search.3m.com/search.dyn?request=findPdfInfo&query=1150+transparent&k2docKey=http%3A%2 F%2Fmultimedia.mmm.com%2Fmws%2Fmediawebserver.dyn%3FppppppZXhADpJTqpCTqpppQKj04PPPPO-%40usenglish.dmr]3M 1150 and 1150a [/URL] [URL=http://multimedia.mmm.com/mws/mediawebserver.dyn?ggggggQO&svgAKhguKhgggHB0S1GGGGF-#xml=http://search.3m.com/search.dyn?request=findPdfInfo&query=1160+transparent&k2docKey=http%3A%2 F%2Fmultimedia.mmm.com%2Fmws%2Fmediawebserver.dyn%3FggggggQO%26svgAKhguKhgggHB0S1GGGGF-%40usenglish.dmr]3M 1160 and 1160a[/URL]
-------------------- Dave Johnson Saltsburg, PA
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Hello Doug - Product Sign Supply in San Jose sells graffiti coat 60" wide. They also sell by the foot for a small premium. " 1 mil Tedlar film ...used to protect flat signage...from graffiti...5 year life based on vertical installation" We used it where we had to, it works fine, but it detracts from the appearance of the finished sign, that is, you can tell there is an overlay. Vic G
-------------------- Victor Georgiou Danville, CA , USA Posts: 1746 | From: Danville, CA , USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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Hi Doug. I've used automotive Turtle Wax over signs that need graffitti protection with good success. This will provide an invisible protective barrier of silicone wax that aerosol paint just won't stick to. After a graffitti attack, the sign face can simply be cleaned off with mineral spirits or varsol. Once this cleaning is done, another protective coat of wax should be applied.
I've never had to repaint one of these, but when that occasion ever arrises, I'd venture to guess that it'll be nearly impossible to remove all the silicone wax, since it can penetrate into the paint. It'll probably be less expensive just to make a new one.
Hope this option helps you out.
-------------------- Ken Henry Henry & Henry Signs London, Ontario Canada (519) 439-1881 e-mail: kjmlhenry@rogers.com
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I used the 3M graffitti control film on a bunch of aluminum signs for the parks department (high vandalism potential). I used the pre-masked stuff and didn't have any trouble with it (I applied it wet with Rapid Tac). I tested the 3M and the 60" wide stuff Product Signs sells, and the 3M had a better look (slightly warmed the colors -- the other was a little dull). I've also heard Pelucid suggested as a spray or roller clear coat that is vandal resistant, but I haven't tried it so I can't tell you if it works. The 3M stuff works -- we did a test sample and "attacked" it with spray paint and markers -- everything came off easily if you get to it soon enough.
Depending on the severity of the problem, you might want to sell your customer a sample board with a few treatments and let them choose -- you'll make some extra $$ and they'll have the responsibility of the choice.
-------------------- :: Scooter Marriner :: :: Coyote Signs :: :: Oakland, CA :: :: still a beginner :: :: Posts: 1356 | From: Oakland (and San Francisco) | Registered: Mar 2001
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Graffiti in Maui?.....Hey Doug, I have used a product that Kelly-Moore Paints sells. I cannot recall it's name , but what it is basically is a heavy liquid wax that you apply to sign, and once violated you need to use very hot water to remove and then reapply. I never tested , although I have used it upon request and signs never got tagged. And then there's "porcelain", which can be expensive, but damn near bellet-proof. Many of the schools here have went the porcelain route. They are a very nice product and were made from a local company called "Fireforms", but they dissapeared???
-------------------- Rich Stebbing RichSigns Rohnert Park CA 707-795-5588 Posts: 755 | From: Rohnert Park, CA | Registered: Nov 1998
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We do offer an Anti-Graffiti laminate, our Series 240 Oraguard. It is a 1 mil Tedlar film and has 7 year outdoor durability with 1000% increased UV resistance and is graffiti resistant. It's available in 51" x 164' rolls and list is pricey, at $3.95/sq ft.
Email me if you'd like a sample.
-------------------- Kenneth Sandlin Author of "Wide Format Printing: An Introduction and Buyer's Guide" PO Box 1295 St. Augustine, FL 32085 kennethsandlin@msn.com http://wfprinting.tripod.com Posts: 116 | From: Jacksonville, FL | Registered: May 2002
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