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Is there any hardware for hanging signs from a pole where they aren't so damn noisy? A customer wants them so he doesn't have to put in ear plugs because his office is on the second floor: right beside second floor hanging signs.
Thanks!
-------------------- Mark Bachman Bachman Studio Great Barrington, MA USA http://www.signart.pair.com Posts: 83 | From: Great Barrington, MA, USA | Registered: May 1999
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Mark, can you describe the noise a little better? Is it in the air, like wind noise, or a clunking or drumming in the wall? How is the bracket affixed to the wall now? Vic G
-------------------- Victor Georgiou Danville, CA , USA Posts: 1746 | From: Danville, CA , USA | Registered: Dec 1998
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It's a high pitched squeeky sound, caused by the wind. The mounting bracket (metal) scrapes against the pole (metal).
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get some straps or bearing surfce made from nylatron plastic.. never rust wear out.. Its actually bearing material...
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Where do I get brackets made out of nylatron plastic?
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I was in this shop one time and heard this deep groaning, and thought someone was hiding and goofing on me. as I started pursuing the agonizing tone I came to find it was the gently swinging sign outside the wall up above. From outside I heard little, but the way the wall translated the sound was awsome. Had someone been living in the space above that shop, they no doubt would have taken an ax to the sign the second night.
I've seen that type of sound a few times, all using the same hardware set up. I used those shackles with quarter inch S hooks through eyes coming off the bottom of the bracket. I tried several types of plastic and grease, but in little time, the groaning ghost returned to the building. Haunted signs are real!
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Mark, hopefully the car crowd will come to your rescue with some expert advice. Basically what you need to do is change that friction joint into a slippery bearing joint. One hundred years ago they might have used a piece of lead sheet, felt, or leather soaked in oil. There are really good nylon bearings these days, the trick is finding them.
Rick Sacks is also correct about the mechanical transmission of sound into the wall. After you get the joint slippery, you may still hear a groaning in the wall. With luck, this noise will not be objectionable. Otherwise, the same techniques that isolate road noise from the passenger compartment of a car can be used to stop the sign noise from entering the building. Vic G
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I have remmedied many of these problems by hanging the top by a short chains (3 to 6 links at most). Use a large eye hook on the tops and stapover on the sign. Keep everything as short as possible to eliminate over movement. When the gusts of wind hit the face of the sign they tend to push it sideways rather than swing it.This type of hang on a swinging arm is the easiest and best that I have ever found. No sounds ever from these hangs
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